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Old 07-04-2010 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
You bring up a salient point. Trust me that is the interesting aspect of this. DAL has signed contracts for these services that go until 2020. Lets let the lawyers answer this question as it is one that has a ton of impact. I for one will not even project an answer on here for many many reasons.
That would **** off a lot of people. You sell the airline with intent for a contract to 2020 and then leave it to the union to void it. Management tactics 101 .....I guess mainline wins with scope and management wins with less contracts and one less regional.
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Old 07-04-2010 | 05:18 PM
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How exactly would the union void it? Both the unions and the regionals have legal binding contracts. It is just a matter of who budges if you ask me.

I just don't know where DL would go from here. You would have to cancel both 9E and CZ contracts and then hopefully find a new home for all the rj's. If you bring the rj's to mainline then there is also big $$$ in training/hiring. If the have to be sold then good luck I guess.

Staplejob sure seems like the easiest thing for all parties at this point.

I am sure Delta has a plan. I just really, really, really, really want to know what it is.
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Old 07-04-2010 | 05:24 PM
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Weren't we just discussing a CZ staple resulting from the merger too? I thought DL pilots were opposed. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 07-04-2010 | 05:37 PM
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That would **** off a lot of people. You sell the airline with intent for a contract to 2020 and then leave it to the union to void it. Management tactics 101 .....I guess mainline wins with scope and management wins with less contracts and one less regional.
I do not disagree. That is management 101. ("We have a contract we need to honor DALPA!")

Like I said, I do not think that the transaction has taken place, just a agreement for sale. Lots of mileage to go before this one is done.

I am also not saying that DALPA would agree with this, after all it is not like this section of the PWA is hidden from management
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Old 07-04-2010 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by F-90 Driver
Weren't we just discussing a CZ staple resulting from the merger too? I thought DL pilots were opposed. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I do not believe that is how it was framed. The spin off the the CPS pilots to their own MEC was so that their pilots had a voice that was not the DALPA voice and DALPA would not serve two masters if it were to come to that.

In other words, would it be wise to have the DALPA MEC representing the CPS pilots if we were to merge?
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Old 07-04-2010 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I do not believe that is how it was framed. The spin off the the CPS pilots to their own MEC was so that their pilots had a voice that was not the DALPA voice and DALPA would not serve two masters if it were to come to that.

In other words, would it be wise to have the DALPA MEC representing the CPS pilots if we were to merge?

Gotcha. Thanks. Just had to refresh my memory with this whole crazy week.
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Old 07-04-2010 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by STINKY
That would **** off a lot of people. You sell the airline with intent for a contract to 2020 and then leave it to the union to void it. Management tactics 101 .....I guess mainline wins with scope and management wins with less contracts and one less regional.
And the downside of this would be??

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Old 07-04-2010 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
You bring up a salient point. Trust me that is the interesting aspect of this. DAL has signed contracts for these services that go until 2020. Lets let the lawyers answer this question as it is one that has a ton of impact. I for one will not even project an answer on here for many many reasons.
And the lawyers answers are subject to other lawyers answers, appeals, stays, injunctions, etc., etc......
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Old 07-04-2010 | 06:12 PM
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nevermind...........
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Old 07-04-2010 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Like I said, I do not think that the transaction has taken place, just a agreement for sale. Lots of mileage to go before this one is done.
That just blew my mind. Makes perfect sense.
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