Darned it, there you go making it harder to heap hate on Delta. There are some funny and clever Delta guys that participate here, but there are sooo many that aren't.

Yeah, I think ATL is a big enough market for both.

Nobody is as clever as this guy:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K5Hj-2jN3D...+duct+tape.jpg

Imagine pulling that off.

Still nowhere near as much as SWA pilots working far below industry standard pay...for decades. And in order to get that "privilege", paying for your own training. ;)

Carl

At it's height, Airtran had a max of 280 flights a day. They are now down to around 180. You obviously have never been through a bank push in the afternoon in KATL. You want slow motion, just wait til the city ramp controller on 4/5 gets in the weeds and turns the ramps into a parking lot. Welcome to the show, now go get in the money line, number 32 for departure and don't even think of asking for an intersection talkeoff!

If WN were adding 300 flights in addition to the flights that citrus was already flying then I would agree with this statement - but they are not. This "blitzkrieg" will mostly involve repainting planes that are already there. In Denver, you guys didn't replace another airlines flying, so that was a true "plague" - ATL will be a difference story since essentially one competitor is just being replaced by another.

They will provide the same support as if the merger was between two ALPA carriers. They will get the resources of ALPA national and the standard attorney and economic guys to build a SLI position. In the end however it will come down to the quality of the guys that each airline appoints to their SLI teams. Put the very best people you can into those positions. You want guys who can build a well thought out case and wont stretch the facts to much. Arbitrators hate that.

Yup.. and that is why your payrates are higher than ours (for the moment)... we came back to you. Don't be so arrogant, it can happen to you too.

I don't know Carl - there are lot of good ole boys at SWA that payed for their type, got "far below industry standard pay" + millions of dollars in stock options. I don't know exactly what the yearly comparison would be with the other legacies post bankruptcy as a career - maybe I'll take the time to figure that out if you really want to know the career difference for 3 decades as a SWA pilot vs. a legacy bankrupted carrier. I suppose that it would depend on how much the respective carrier lost in pay and pensions, I don't have that info, but if you can post the info on your company, I'll try to put it in an easily decipherable format.

As for me, I only had 6 months on property at SWA at "below industry average pay." Come to think of it, the pathetic stock options that I got actually payed for my type rating.:p

TSquare, you pinged me on the type rating requirement - don't expect me not to throw barbs right back at you. That's not how it works even if you do work for Delta.

I'm glad your stock options helped to reimburse you for paying for your training.

I'm sure you'll look forward to fighting for top of the industry pay as you have always done...by praying the rest of the industry goes down. ;)