He was over on the mesa board talking about how the comair guys hate his @ss for picking up gobs of open time...go figure.

Tell me then sir. Why does EVERY ALPO airline negotiate open time if they don't want people to pick it up?? Thats right its my right to pick it up whenever I feel like it. Also while your at it why do union seem to need to control how everyone acts and speaks in the name of "unity". Its a fine line between being a member of the borg really. No one ever debates the facts with me they simply resort to name calling. I guess pilots really can't stand someone who has a different opinion. Im not management nor a union man. Simply a man who is tired of the rhetoric from both sides and ready for change. I know pilots don't like change. The problem is the same tactics no longer work. ALPO needs to adapt or move on. This is why I predict the destruction of unionism within 75 years. They never have been able to move on from their one track way of thinking.

I know it hurts hearing the truth. They banned me because of emotions not because of logic. Trust me many a people over there have said much worse things than me and not even gotten a few day ban. The reason I was banned is because people are too afraid to hear the truth about their little union. If you replaced what I said with the words management instead of ALPA id probably be a national hero over there. No worries im not in this to pander to peer pressure. I am here to make mine and everyone else who is sick and tired of unions voices heard. Trust me we are the minority as of now but we are growing rapidly. Oh yes ALPOs day of reckoning is coming. I will be there in all my glory. Watching, watching as it all comes CRUMBLING DOWN. If ALPA does adapt and change to present times then I will eat my words. I am not holding my breath on that one though.

Classic :p

So D,

Why did you even APPLY to Comair ? You DID know they have ALPA on property right ? It was your choice ... lots of other non-union operators out there that you should be focusing on ! They would LOVE to have you for sure.

Have you ever worked non-union ? I mean a real job. Before you got to fly RJs around.

I worked construction and factories, union and non-union, I prefer the UNION shops. You might to if you ever REALLY worked in a Right to Work state at a Right to Work factory ...

Guess for now you can kick back real cool, and enjoy the pay, benefits and work rules of your Comair ALPA contract ... while you and the boys work to destroy unions !

How ironic ...

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I agree that unions have there place, however comparing the need and function of Contruction, Mining, or other manual labor unions to those in Aviation, specifically ALPA is comparing apples and Oranges

Since you feel so strongly about this issue, I'm sure you give back all of the money ALPA has negotiated for you, right? I mean, otherwise you'd be considered a hypocrite.

You mean, sort of like what Russia had before the fall of communism? Don't forget that Hitler didn't have any trouible with unions, either, as he just outlawed them.

I don't think you'll find many people here that would willingly share a foxhole with you.

I won't be paying them one red cent back. They have forced me to pay dues for years anyway so I don't owe them a thing, even if I succeed in my goal. I didn't say I wanted unions outlawed. I want unions to die a natural death. The right to strike isn't absolute. It's time to tell people you are free to quit at any time however don't expect your job back. If enough people quit then the contract will have to change. Again the threat of a union is more powerful than a union itself. You talk about Russia and hitler well lets talk about the RLA. Under the RLA you are basically FORCED to join the union. That is also like living under a dictatorship. The country got so focused on worrying about the right to organize they forget about all the people that get plowed under the bus by the union thugs. You talk about pilots being professionals. You don't see doctors or lawyers going on strike do you? It's time to decide are we professionals or just another blue collar profession dominated by constant union drama.

I applied because this is the career I wanted. I'm not going to let a union run my life I simply joined the airline that fit me best at the time. I would have loved to work for skywest however comair called first and therefore I took the job. Now I can work with my friends at the NRTW to at least eliminate the forced dues clause of the RLA. Trust me it is unconstitutional and will be thrown out. I predict it will take 10-20 years for forced unionism to go away. There are two goals I think will be fulfilled in my lifetime. First goal is every state become a right to work state. The second goal is make the RLA allow for the option to not only not join the union but to not have to pay them one dime. Ive wasted enough money on them already. I have no problem with the airlines who use the threat of ALPA to get a better contract. They get a good deal and don't have to blow 2% of their check every month! Sounds like a no brainer to me. I would love to be kicking back, reaping all the benefits and not paying them a dime. I do believe this will happen some day. You want to be in the union fine but don't force it on me.

You might wear a white shirt and tie but don't be so naive to think that you are anything but labor and a throw-a-way widget to management.

You know, I've got some real issues with ALPA, but for any airline pilot to think they would be better off without union representation is someone who doesn't understand what's going on out there.

Airline managements just LOVE your line of thinking. They'll pat you on the back, tell you what a great guy you are and while you're just grinning from ear to ear, the time will come when they'll throw you away without any hesitation on their part.

I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. So I'll ask it again - are your convictions strong enough to return the money and benefits ALPA has negotiated on your behalf? :p