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Two-percent 08-17-2006 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by D'Angelo (Post 53621)
I do admit every now and then there may be a denied jumpseat. Easily solved by non-reving, having ID-90s or jumpseating on the regionals. I have yet to fly with a captain at comair that checks "scab lists". I myself do not have a problem jumpseating if I do. I don't commute however I myself am not on a scab list.

That's not what I heard from My past co-workers at Comair. They told me they know who you are and that you are indeed former scab.

I hope everyone doesn't start profilin' now and check those scab lists every time a brutha tries to J/S.

HSLD 08-17-2006 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by fireman0174 (Post 53884)
So I'll ask it again - are your convictions strong enough to return the money and benefits ALPA has negotiated on your behalf? :p

You mean the company signs my paycheck and ALPA just fills in the ammount :p


I'm sure Mr. D'Angelo would be willing to grovel for whatever the company would be will to dish out absent a labor union (which wouldn't be much). It's all about him you know.

757Driver 08-17-2006 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Two-percent (Post 53889)
That's not what I heard from My past co-workers at Comair. They told me they know who you are and that you are indeed former scab.

I hope everyone doesn't start profilin' now and check those scab lists every time a brutha tries to J/S.

Had a funny feeling this guy was probably an ex-EAL scab. Oh well, no surprise there and don't forget, he maybe former EAL, but he will ALWAYS be a SCAB.

D'Angelo 08-17-2006 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Two-percent (Post 53889)
That's not what I heard from My past co-workers at Comair. They told me they know who you are and that you are indeed former scab.

I hope everyone doesn't start profilin' now and check those scab lists every time a brutha tries to J/S.


lol it would be hard for me to be a former scab. When the whole eastern airline thing was goin down I was still a few years away from being able to even hold a certificate. When the 1998 northwest strike happened I was into my second year of college. I was not at comair during the 2001 strike. I fail to see how that could place me on any scab list. Anyone who has been a scab simply has to say sorry, pay some extra dues and the stigma would probably be removed. How do you explain the ASA MEC chair being a former EAL type. I thought a scab was the unforgivable sin. Lets face it ALPO will forgive anyone if the price is right. I do not commute however have never had problems jumpseating. Perhaps your cohorts do know who I am. They are mistaken about the scab part though. Based on my age it is simply impossible. I am in my late 20s. Not too far from 30. Don't worry anyone who is ever in the long island area holla at yo boi D' and we can have a nice debate about unions. Civil debaters only of course.

D'Angelo 08-17-2006 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 53892)
Had a funny feeling this guy was probably an ex-EAL scab. Oh well, no surprise there and don't forget, he maybe former EAL, but he will ALWAYS be a SCAB.

How could I be a former eastern guy when I wasn't even in high school when this was going down??

CVG767A 08-17-2006 05:22 PM

IOW, you're a teenager, just trying to rile us up. I'm not biting.

Short Bus Drive 08-17-2006 05:40 PM

Yo D', (from "strong island" huh?)
If there was no union at Comair, what would you like as far as compensation, work rules, retirement, etc...?
How would you make sure it stayed that way. Just trying to see your side of it. I know you pointed out earlier about an arbitrator, etc. But that would have to apply to each individual in the company.
Just want to know how you figure...

MD11HOG 08-17-2006 06:05 PM

Confessions of a Union Buster
 

Originally Posted by D'Angelo (Post 53909)
How could I be a former eastern guy when I wasn't even in high school when this was going down??

D, You should read this book by Martin Levitt. It will give you some great ideas. But, I strongly doubt that you are a well read or educated person. My father had a saying: "Ignorant and proud of it" and boy, that is you.

CactusCrew 08-17-2006 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by duvie (Post 53853)
I agree that unions have there place, however comparing the need and function of Contruction, Mining, or other manual labor unions to those in Aviation, specifically ALPA is comparing apples and Oranges


Not exactly Duvie ... BOTH pilots AND construction type laborers are BLUE COLLAR workers !!! :eek:

And BOTH industries had terrible safety records prior to the advent of unions. And MANY of the safety improvements in both fields were a result of the unions effort.

I guess the miners do get a little dirtier ... :rolleyes:

I think its more like comparing oranges to tangerines !

But go ahead and believe you are a white collar manager for awhile ... :rolleyes:

Later, CC

ClutchCargo 08-17-2006 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by D'Angelo (Post 53861)
I have no problem with the airlines who use the threat of ALPA to get a better contract. They get a good deal and don't have to blow 2% of their check every month! Sounds like a no brainer to me. I would love to be kicking back, reaping all the benefits and not paying them a dime.

What airline would that be? Who uses the threat of ALPA to get better deals from their airline's management? We tried that at FDX for a long time. Things just stagnated or deteriorated. Finally got a pay raise and B fund after we unionized.

Maybe someday you will have enough self-esteem to realize that you are worth more than the pittance management wants to scatter your way. When that happens you will finally see the value of unions. Until then, keep on applying for that Chief Pilot's position.


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