The system works now. If it didn't they wouldn't be using it at 3 locations. Does more robust mean another couple of laptops at each new location? The data base and server required would be the same that is required for the test, just implementing it at more locations.

More robust as in better information to check the data

+1

Flying a fair amount of Int'l flights, and having to deal with US Customs, I recently bought into the "Global Entry" program. That is $100 for 5 yrs and is WELL worth it.....especially when sitting number 47 in line (behind El Al, Qatar, Singapore, ect) to have your passport scanned/crew dec stamped. Not unusual to have to wait 30+ mins in line when there's a big Int'l arrival in the customs hall.

I agree, it would SUCK if we had to pay for CrewPass....but if it 'fast tracks' the process like "Global Entry".....I'll gladly pony up the $$ so not to have to deal with TSA and it's new Molestation/Fondel Process...."No brainer" there.

I guess when I started this thread I didn't really mean to imply that the pilots *should* pay for crewpass. I just am saying that its worth it enough to me that I would foot the bill if I HAVE to until it is taken care of. And if we can use it for personal travel I would be more accepting to foot the bill (initially) because we pay for travel benefits too, so I kind of think of it in the same category. But I think it would be really wrong to have to pay for something to go to work and then not even be able to use it when we are traveling on our own. Either way I just want it implemented ASAP.

Why is it we can verify for the jumpseat through CASS, but we can't use the same system for the CREWPASS. Just wondering.

You think TSA cares about Crewpass? Someone in the mindless outfit would have to do “extra work” to make it possible.

Reminder: Last year a Nigerian man pays cash for a one-way ticket and checks no bags....humm, any 12 year old would know to check this guy. Instead of searching for “bad” people, everybody is groped together......mindless.

There is talk that the Congressionally Mandated fee for Global Entry be waived as well.

What are the odds ALPA will convince airlines to pay a cost that you have already agreed to pay? Really, what are the odds?

Once you pay for it, you will ALWAYS pay for it. You will also pay all the increases that will inevitably come down the line, as TSA "reanalyzes" all the costs that they can apportion to CREWPASS.

Think of it as that teaser rate that gets you to sign up for cable....sounds like a great value at first until the promo rate ends, and then the price goes up, up, up, and away!

This is a cost that should be borne by the TSA. The TSA stands to benefit from it just like we do. It's that simple.

Are there really pilots willing to pay a penny to the TSA to secure aircraft FROM THEMSELVES! Good grief.

We should not have to pay to go to work...If you look at the ticket taxes charged to the passenger in the name of security since 911 and the effect on total ticket prices you will notice that the total of a given airline ticket is not all that different from pre 911 but the taxes are tremendously higher. While the employee pay since 911 has plummeted to "even out" the bottom line of each ticket and its associated price. effectively the airline industry employees are shouldering a disproportionate amount of the aviation security cost through their pay concessions since 2001.The attacks of 911 and those since are attacks on The United States of America, not on the airline industry and the costs should be shouldered by the country as a whole not just the airline industry and its employees. To now pay the cost of CREWPASS really means that we have paid for industry security twice.

I would say the key part of that paragraph is "grant them expedited access through screening checkpoints." By providing a crew lane are they not expediting the process? We aren't waiting in the regular line as a passenger so it doesn't take as long.

Typical beauracracy.