Pay Cuts
08-30-2006 | 12:58 AM
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Someone probably has better data than I, but from my recollection (I'm not there anymore), pure pay appears around 42% paycut at Delta. That's just $$, not all the other aspects of the contract gutted. That is from where a 767ER captain was and is today. That also doesn't include the reduction in international override. So when all cash extras and ways to make extra are taken into consideration, probably close to 50%, just money in pocket. Again not including things like increase in medical and things like that.
To put it into perspective, a B717 captain at AirTran makes more than a B767ER international captain at Delta. Of course their company is making money and the legacies are not. Has them smiling, I am sure. Someone has to try and keep the bar up a little.
Should be an interesting thread.
To put it into perspective, a B717 captain at AirTran makes more than a B767ER international captain at Delta. Of course their company is making money and the legacies are not. Has them smiling, I am sure. Someone has to try and keep the bar up a little.
Should be an interesting thread.
08-30-2006 | 05:09 AM
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If you are single, or have a family that's up for a new life style, then the money is over seas. Entry level positions equal to 10 to 15 year seniority captain pay at Delta and NW. Equipment is new, and benefits are pretty good too.
08-30-2006 | 07:08 AM
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Contract 2000 was gutted in 2003 to the tune of 40% + and again in 2005. Take home pay was reduced by around 45-50% and the pension was canceled.
By far the biggest hit, and the one that's difficult to estimate a cost was work rules. UAL's work rules have taken a 70 year jump backwards.
By far the biggest hit, and the one that's difficult to estimate a cost was work rules. UAL's work rules have taken a 70 year jump backwards.
08-30-2006 | 07:20 AM
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I have family in India and Mid-East (Dubai / UAE) wish I was qualified (had more than a PPL...)to work overseas.
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08-30-2006 | 07:23 AM
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Selling the pay cuts
Originally Posted by Skyone
To put it into perspective, a B717 captain at AirTran makes more than a B767ER international captain at Delta.
The court hearing on termination starts Friday.
Last edited by tomgoodman; 08-30-2006 at 10:08 AM. Reason: corrected hearing date
08-30-2006 | 09:54 AM
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Ben Salley
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They could have settled for "modestly profitable", saving the pensions AND pay scales, but they saw a window of opportunity and used it.
But that is contrary to the pure capitolist government to which we are hostage. Terminating pensions should be illegal. Godspeed to you and yours. I'm curious to know if you retirees will have any claim on the treasury note or the other 2.1 million
But that is contrary to the pure capitolist government to which we are hostage.
Terminating pensions should be illegal. Godspeed to you and yours. I'm curious to know if you retirees will have any claim on the treasury note or the other 2.1 million
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