Did they send the online assessment to everyone on the last annoucement? I know it has been sent out selectively in the past, but it sounded like more people got the assessment the last time around.

yes this true, everyone got one immediately.

anyone heard of future class dates recently? Im in the pool of 20, and I know 6 more 320's are coming starting in august every month. Seems they would need to start the training process to get crews ready for the aircraft. Only 1 month out until AC start getting picked up.
Cant wait to get in class and dump this retarded desk job, and to tell my socially incompetent boss. ;-)

Everything I am hearing is nothing until August, but then that is all rumor mill, so it must be taken with a grain of salt. The lack of communication can be frustrating, eh?

We are recieving 7 aircraft between now and December 30th. and then 5 in the first two quarters of 2012. We have captains in upgrade training right now. Fo training will begin in the first week of august. The gang in flight training told me that we need about 140 more guys on the list by the ind of next june just to break even with zero attrition. And we just lost a guy this week to Emeriates. So I'm thinking a few more than that. But thats just my opinion. Good luck in training! your really going to be happy here.

I cant wait to get into class. Been furloughed for almost 2 years fighting tooth and nail to get another chance somewhere other than regionals or fly by nite ops. I feel very fortunate to be given a chance at VX. They never mentioned resigning my recall rights at my previous carrier but I expect that to be the first form I fill out in INDOC. Would be nice to have it as a backup plan though, but no way Id go back vs flying at VX right now as Virgin is a much better opportunity for me!

Anyone know of any ex CHQ folks at VX??? I've just read that an internal rec really helps...

No CHQ guys on the list as far as I know.

Two new sim instructors in training right now, new hire classes should be starting up around the begining of August.

Everyone got the previsor during the last application window because the server that keeps the application records went down so they gave out the previsor to everyone that applied until the server came back up.

The pool of twenty is actually a pool of fifteen.

Im in the pool and waiting to hear about a class date right now. When I get to class, Ill try to keep those waiting for interview info up to date on happenings and plans for future hiring, numbers, etc. Hang in there guys, It took 4 months for me to hear anything about an interview, but then when I did...It was full speed ahead with the process so be ready as if you were going tomorrow!!
Whats the magic word.....Patience? Yeah, easy to say but hard to put into effect.

They're just training you for the patience you'll need before you get a decent pay rate for flying A320s.

Good things come to those who wait....... hard work brings reward and a feeling of accomplishment. May not happen soon, but when it does it will be nice.
I do understand what youre saying Fish, Im just trying to keep a positive spin during a terrible time in aviations brief history.

Unfortunately, as long as scumbag outfits like VX can find people willing to work for substandard wages, it takes longer for EVERYONE ELSE to improve overall pay rates.

If VX is a scumbag outfit, what do you call an airline that sells out its wholly owned regional to hire a seperate regional to fly the same routes for cheaper rates? And therefore disrupts the lives of its own pilots to save a buck? :eek:

That is a great question Fish? Where is the almighty ALPA on this one, they should be working with their bother Teamsters and put a stop to the unholy alliance between AAG and the non-union SkyWest (as you put it) scumbags.

You have huge problems in your own pool, stop pi$$ing in Virgins.

I have not been on this board long, but even I know Fish/Fubi will not do anything but keep flaming VA. He won't answer any REAL questions. :)

Fish always gets very quiet when reality is thrown in his face.

Virgin is hiring 140 new pilots between now and June of next year. That's what the training department have been told anyway.

Actually, you guys live in such a fantasy world you have no idea what's happening outside it. No QX pilots lost their jobs. QX eliminated unprofitable jet flying via CPA.

No lives were disrupted. Some guys had to change airplanes, but that translated into better seniority.

Oh, and they STILL make more flying Q400s than your Capts make flying A320s.

So who's the sucker here?

Fish, you're math is a bit fuzzy there. I'm making more here than I ever did as a Q400 driver.:D

How many days before the interview date did they call you?

Also, does anyone know who to address a cover letter to at VX? Thanks.

From APC:

Current VX Capt rate: $115.
Current QX Capt rate: $121.

Those are pay rates people are earning TODAY.

Fish,

QX CRJ Capt rate $121

Since there are no CRJ capt anymore, every one of those people in the jet took a pay cut.:mad:

QX Q400 Capt rate $110

This is the rate that they are earning TODAY!

So lives disrupted, yes.

Better Seniority??? Where do you come up with that!!! Senior people coming from the Jet list piling on top of you pushing your overall bidding seniority down, how is that better?

Fish, you are the one living in the fantasy world. If you think the SkyWest CPA is not going to start encroaching in on your little world you are nuts. SkyWest is actively looking for more Alaska CPA, what are you going to do when they start taking more routes from you? You do realize that the routes they are doing now are your routes? QX took them over from AS and now it is SkyWest. It won't be long before they start going to more places for AS. It might just be at the expense of AS instead of QX this next time.

Good Luck!

I stand corrected.

QX CA rate $111.
VX CA rate $115.

So for $4 an hour you're flying an A320 around for Sir Dick. Man, he's getting a deal.

And, if you consider a $10 an hour paycut a life disruption, how are you going to feel when VX goes out of business?

Again the math is a bit fuzzy Fish. The $111 QX megawhacker rate is for an 18 year captain. The $115 Virgin skipper rate is for a 3 year captain. I was making $76/hr when I left qx and am now at $120/hr for 4 year pay. More than $4 bux an hour wouldn't you say.

Why do you all even bother responding to his posts. He never contributes anything constructive to the conversation. If you want to go back and forth with the guy just start a thread for it and let the rest of the adults talk without having to listen to all the crap.

My math isn't fuzzy. That's what Captains are making TODAY.

When you try to have a constructive conversation with the guy he suddenly disappears, only to pop up a week or so later on another thread to bash VX.

Adults? Adults don't sell themselves cheap. Adults know what their skill are worth. A320 Captain skills are worth more than $115 an hour.

This message is hidden because NEDude is on your ignore list.

Most junior Captain here is making $120/hr TODAY.

Bored I guess. I know he'll never change his tune regarding VX, but if he's gonna bash us, he should at least have his facts straight first.

How would you know I was talking about you if I am on your ignore list? You always post this after I mention you, but never after a post in which I don't mention you. Seems like you are undoing your ignore list to see what I write, and then putting me back on.

That's pretty darn funny.

Take it from me, he is not interested in facts. He is only interested in spewing garbage. A person interested in facts and constructive conversation actually takes the time to read and respond to factual and legitimate questions. Go ahead, ask him a legitimate question and see what happens. I'll give you a hint - nothing will happen, he will run and hide for a few days and then start a new VX bashing thread.

Yes, I know fishfreighter, I am on your ignore list, so after you read this and then put me back on ignore, please post the fact that I am on your ignore list and prove my point even more.

Good point NE.... I challenged him to a philosophical debate on his union lover stance and heard crickets. I questioned him about the fact Horizon got sold out for cheaper Skywest service, and I heard rationalizing on his part. Funny. Guess thats what happens when your old and set in the salty dog ways.
Back to relevant issues....
VX will be interviewing and growing even when this economy is still stagnant (presently). Will be a solid place to work at when the US picks up again and jobs/income return to American households. Cant wait for that day, as VX will surely be a powerplayer with low costs, and good business structure.
Kinda funny how I have NO desire to bash other airlines, yet some feel it to be a duty to be negative and insulting about others choices in life. Wait until VX takes over Alaskas terminal at LAX next year....Fishy should have a stroke over that one.

It will be nice to have some more space in LAX. But, WOW do we or the city needs to stick some money in that terminal. A crappy Burger King, starbucks, and an even worse seafood joint? Thats the best they can do. That along with the general feel of the place. Not a very good representation of our brand. In regards to Alaska, I'll be curious if they continue to pull down Mexico flying out of SFO as we add destinations and additional frequency in. I've done CUN three times this month and its been packed every day in and out.

Nice try...the real comparison is by longevity TODAY. There are no 3 year capts at neither Horizon nor Alaska so the comparison for TODAY actually works out like this:

VX 3 yr pilot - $115/hr
AS 3 yr pilot - $87/hr
QX 3 yr pilot - $40/hr

Unless you are advocating getting rid of the industry standard pay structure altogether or have a beef with upstarts in general and the fact they don't pay 12 year wages to first year pilots...both of which are entirely different issues.

How dare you confuse the issue with facts!

Anybody hear that?? .......

Sure gets quiet when the facts are stated.

Yep, he has been pretty active on this thread until now. Glad he is showing everyone his true colors.

Back to the original topic. When is Vx going to start calling for the upcoming interviews and what kind of time is going to be competitive?

WOW! That's something to brag about. RJ wages for A320 flying. Well done.