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Old 04-02-2011 | 07:29 AM
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You could also say that people that are simplistic and unsophisticated try to come up with simple solutions to complex problems and thus find themselves always feeling especially wise when in fact they are just being simple minded.
Feeling frustrated alfa? Need a hug?
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Old 04-02-2011 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Feeling frustrated alfa? Need a hug?

That is the response of someone that has done the work, and enjoys flying the line more.
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Old 04-02-2011 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That is the response of someone that has done the work, and enjoys flying the line more.
Oh I know he's been there and done that. He's just too easy to get all riled up.

And the point is that I give crap where crap is due. Just because he's done the work and enjoys flying the line more doesn't mean he still can't see past it.

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Old 04-02-2011 | 08:07 AM
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Default Official TSA Press Release on CREWPASS!!

Crewmember Identity Verification Program To Begin Testing
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April 1, 2011

Contact:
TSA Press Affairs
(571) 227-2829

WASHINGTON – The Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA), and the Air Transport Association (ATA) met recently with Transportation Security Administration (TSA) Administrator John S. Pistole and received approval from TSA for testing of a new crewmember screening system. This enhanced identity and employment verification system for airline pilots will make airport checkpoint screening more efficient for all who depend on air transportation.

The system, which is jointly sponsored by ALPA and ATA, will tie airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enable TSA security officers to positively verify identity and employment status of crewmembers. In 2007, ALPA promoted to TSA the first version of an alternate screening method called the Crew Personnel Advanced Screening System (CrewPASS). CrewPASS has been used successfully at three East Coast airports for almost three years. This enhanced process leverages current technology to provide an effective and cost efficient solution.

“I look forward to the full national deployment of a known crewmember program at the earliest possible date,” said ALPA President Captain Lee Moak. “As professional airline pilots, we have been through employment checks; we have been fingerprinted; we have been through criminal background checks. We are the most highly screened employees in the aviation industry, and we are on the frontlines of our nation’s aviation security effort every day, empowered to help protect it. This enhanced process recognizes those facts by providing pilots with a technologically modern and highly efficient alternative to the traditional security screening process.”

“We are proud to partner with ALPA on this effort,” said ATA President Nicholas E. Calio. “Our nation’s airline pilots are highly skilled and trusted partners within our industry, and with this new system we can improve the screening system for flight crews while reducing congestion and improving the travel experience for passengers in TSA security lines.”

“Deploying an enhanced screening program for pilots in uniform that allows TSA to verify their employment and identity is a step in the right direction as TSA continues to explore more risk-based, intelligence-driven security solutions,” said TSA Administrator John S. Pistole. “We want to focus our limited resources on passenger screening, while speeding and enhancing the checkpoint experience for everyone.”

Any TSA-regulated U.S. airline that wishes to connect to this enhanced system will be able to do so, and any airline pilot employed by one of those carriers will be able to participate in the program.

Testing is projected to begin at a limited number of airports later this year. The tests will run for approximately 90 days and if successful will expand to additional U.S. airports.

Implementation of this system is the culmination of ongoing discussions precipitated by an earlier announcement by TSA to modify checkpoint screening procedures for crewmembers while an identity verification system was being developed.

Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union, representing nearly 53,000 pilots at 38 airlines in the United States and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at Alpa > About ALPA.

Annually, commercial aviation helps drive more than $1 trillion in U.S. economic activity and nearly 11 million U.S. jobs. ATA airline members and their affiliates transport more than 90 percent of all U.S. airline passenger and cargo traffic. For more information about the airline industry, visit Air Transport Association Home and follow us on Twitter @airlinesassn.

CONTACT:

ALPA Media, 703/481-4440 - [email protected]

ATA Media: 202-626-4141 - [email protected]

TSA Media: 571-227-2829 – [email protected]

Yes, I subscribe to a ton of government blast mails, and this one was just sent out. Here is the direct link for those that are skeptical.
TSA: Crewmember Identity Verification Program To Begin Testing
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Old 04-02-2011 | 08:09 AM
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Oh BTW, where is SWAPA, CAPA, APA or IPA in this release? It is a government press release that states ALPA. If that does not mean anything to you, then I do not know what will.

Point is ALPA did this. That is your dues dollars at work.
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Old 04-02-2011 | 08:34 AM
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Yah, only 10 years after 9/11. Alpa's really on the job!
I agree with you, but it's the federal government. If you set your expectations too high, you are going to be disappointed.
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Old 04-02-2011 | 09:05 AM
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I think it's great CrewPass is moving forward. The only thing that frustrates me is that there will be a 90 day testing period. It's been tested for 3+ years already. Why does it have to be tested again? If they say it can be implemented quickly, why do we have to test more? Maybe I'm missing something?
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Old 04-02-2011 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Oh I know he's been there and done that. He's just too easy to get all riled up.

And the point is that I give crap where crap is due. Just because he's done the work and enjoys flying the line more doesn't mean he still can't see past it.
Okay, so let's have a little of your wisdom here. I mean you have a very high opinion of yourself so why don't you enlighten the brainwashed. Tell me how to fix the world.
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Old 04-02-2011 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
However, you seem to fail to recognize that bloated bureaucracies create complexities that might not need to exist in the first place.
Exactly correct!

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Old 04-02-2011 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Okay, so let's have a little of your wisdom here. I mean you have a very high opinion of yourself so why don't you enlighten the brainwashed. Tell me how to fix the world.
You do realize how funny it is one airline pilot accusing another of having a high opinion of oneself?




Back on subject: johnso- the way I read it, it looks like the test phase is for checking out the expanded implementation of devices that will be used to connect to the server instead of the alpa/tsa lappies. Heres to it being a rapid implementation afterward. Also, its funny the immediate "me too" that came from RA for the Delta stews.
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