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ALPA gets CrewPass done
ALPA just got approval for a CrewPass like system, paid for by the ATA with tests starting in May.
Good evening. This is Lee Moak with an update to ALPA’s Executive Council, Executive Board, and Board of Directors. Today is Thursday, March 31. The Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA), and the Air Transport Association (ATA) received approval from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) for nationwide implementation of a crewmember screening system. The system, jointly sponsored by ALPA and ATA, will tie airline employee databases together in a seamless way, enable TSA security officers to positively verify identity and employment status of crewmembers, and get our members out of the passenger screening lines. Click here to read a draft of the press release. |
Yah, only 10 years after 9/11. Alpa's really on the job!
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This is definitely good, on the good/bad scale, but I'm disappointed to hear that we have to do more testing. I thought we had already taken care of that part.
I hope they can get rid of the in uniform requirement in the process. |
Originally Posted by glasspilot
(Post 973665)
Yah, only 10 years after 9/11. Alpa's really on the job!
I'll take the Glass half-full view. If they pull off nationwide implementation with the ATA paying for it, ALPA has earned my 1.9% (For the year). |
Agreed, more testing...Pardon if I temper my enthusiasm
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Originally Posted by glasspilot
(Post 973665)
Yah, only 10 years after 9/11. Alpa's really on the job!
Sheesh. Someone does something good and all some people do is b*tch about how it could have been done better/sooner/cheaper. It's my observation that there are more people who watch something than who do something. Too bad there aren't more appreciative watchers out there. 8 |
Originally Posted by glasspilot
(Post 973665)
Yah, only 10 years after 9/11. Alpa's really on the job!
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
(Post 973698)
So who else would have pursued it?
SWAPA APA IPA (ya know, the guys who started CASS:cool:)....... |
SWAPA tested a biometric? version. As long as we get something and soon. Nice work, ALPA.
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Good, now that this is finished, ALPA can focus on the more important issues.
TYG |
Super news. Period. A win for all of us.
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I think I just heard someone's head explode. Someone please call the DPA Self-Anointed patron saint and make sure there's no sharp objects in his house.
...his red-haired friend too :cool: |
Here's the full text for anyone interested...looks like it's coming to ORD, PHX, BOS, MIA, MSP, IAD and SEA first.
Good evening. This is Lee Moak with an update to ALPA’s Executive Council, Executive Board, and Board of Directors. Today is Thursday, March 31. The Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA), and the Air Transport Association (ATA) received approval from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) for nationwide implementation of a crewmember screening system. The system, jointly sponsored by ALPA and ATA, will tie airline employee databases together in a seamless way, enable TSA security officers to positively verify identity and employment status of crewmembers, and get our members out of the passenger screening lines. Click here to read a draft of the press release. As you know, ALPA has long advocated a threat-based approach to aviation security that focuses limited screening resources on individuals about whom little or nothing is known while accurately identifying trusted travelers such as airline pilots and allowing them to be screened appropriately. In 2007, ALPA proposed to TSA the first version of an alternate screening method called the Crew Personnel Advanced Screening System (CrewPASS). CrewPASS has been used successfully at three East Coast airports for almost three years. The enhanced process leverages current technology to provide for an effective and cost-efficient solution. I look forward to the full national deployment of this screening program at the earliest possible date. As professional airline pilots, we have been through employment checks; we have been fingerprinted; we have been through criminal background checks. We are the most highly screened employees in the aviation industry. Furthermore, we are on the frontlines of our nation’s aviation security effort, not a threat to it. Any TSA-regulated U.S. airline that wishes to connect to the ALPA/ATA system will be able to do so, and any airline pilot employed by one of those carriers will be able to participate in the program. Testing is projected to begin at the following airports: Chicago O’Hare, Phoenix Sky Harbor, Boston Logan, Miami International, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Dulles International, and Seattle-Tacoma. The tests will run for approximately 90 days and if successful will expand to additional U.S. airports. Implementation of this system is the culmination of ongoing discussions precipitated by an earlier announcement by TSA to modify checkpoint screening procedures for crewmembers while an identity verification system was being developed. |
Remember, tomorrow is April 1st. :p
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Well, I'll be danged. NICE JOB.
Guess I'll be wearing this for the week: http://images5.cpcache.com/nocache/p...olor-White.jpg |
This has got to be an Aprils fool joke. After CASS, what does LM have left to do? :O
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Originally Posted by nerd2009
(Post 973816)
This has got to be an Aprils fool joke. After CASS, what does LM have left to do? :O
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 973787)
Well, I'll be danged. NICE JOB.
Guess I'll be wearing this for the week: http://images5.cpcache.com/nocache/p...olor-White.jpg |
Great news.
One detail --- the money. (its always about the money ;)) Am I hearing correctly that its not yet decided who will pay for this? System will be "Jointly sponsored by ALPA and the ATA". Are pilots going to pay a fee? Will non-ALPA pilots be included? Don't get me wrong. Any progress on this issue is good. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 973859)
Great news.
One detail --- the money. (its always about the money ;)) Am I hearing correctly that its not yet decided who will pay for this? System will be "Jointly sponsored by ALPA and the ATA". Are pilots going to pay a fee? Will non-ALPA pilots be included? Don't get me wrong. Any progress on this issue is good. "Any pilot whose employer connects to the system and is currently capable of using CASS will be able to gain access through test checkpoints. ALPA, ATA and the TSA will work together to resolve any problems that may be identified during the test period. Following the test, ATA member airlines and other TSA-regulated airlines will begin implementing the program at airports throughout the country. Because the new program uses existing technology and databases, implementation costs should be minimal, and it is likely that in many if not all cases, participating airlines will assume these costs. The crewmember identity verification program will quickly provide professional pilots with the alternate screening program we have been anticipating for many years. Expect additional details and more information from your union as the program is implemented." |
It's about time. Still not sure why the rollout at a few more airports for more "testing" is needed, and 90-days at that.
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
(Post 973869)
It's about time. Still not sure why the rollout at a few more airports for more "testing" is needed, and 90-days at that.
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How come it's not ALPA, TSA and the ATA gets Crewpass done?
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Guys,
I believe this is an April Fools joke in very poor taste. A few minutes of research on TSA, ALPA and ATA websites revealed no public statements or press release about the approval of CrewPASS for airline pilots. If this was indeed a true story it would make front page news on all these sites as well a the major news sites too. If anyone has any proof of this claim please provide the verification. alfaromeo, any comment? |
Originally Posted by EagleDriver
(Post 973963)
Guys,
I believe this is an April Fools joke in very poor taste. A few minutes of research on TSA, ALPA and ATA websites revealed no public statements or press release about the approval of CrewPASS for airline pilots. If this was indeed a true story it would make front page news on all these sites as well a the major news sites too. If anyone has any proof of this claim please provide the verification. alfaromeo, any comment? |
Originally Posted by JobHopper
(Post 973973)
Log onto the ALPA national website and read it for yourself. I just did.
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I got it in email form the legit DALPA mec address. It's real... It's dated March 31, not April 1.
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Public Document so here is what DALPA sent out last night:
March 31, 2011 Crewmember Identity Verification Program In his November 12 Chairman’s Letter, following the announcement that the TSA had instituted revised Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) security screening measures, then Delta MEC Chairman Captain Lee Moak wrote “The rational solution to pilot security screening is CrewPASS. . . CrewPASS implementation will be my first order of business as ALPA president.” On March 21, ALPA President Captain Lee Moak and Air Transport Association President Nicholas E. Calio sent a joint letter to TSA Administrator John Pistole announcing that “The Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA) and the Air Transport Association (ATA) have reached agreement on a plan for implementing an enhanced crew screening system that is designed to meet applicable portions of TSA guidelines . . .” Late today, Captain Moak notified ALPA’s Board of Directors that ALPA and the ATA have “received approval from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) for nationwide implementation of a crewmember screening system.” The jointly sponsored program will tie airline employee databases together in a seamless way, enable TSA security officers to positively verify identity and employment status of crewmembers, and get pilots out of passenger screening lines. “I look forward to the full national deployment of a known crewmember program at the earliest possible date,” said ALPA President Captain Lee Moak. “As professional airline pilots, we have been through employment checks; we have been fingerprinted; we have been through criminal background checks. We are the most highly screened employees in the aviation industry, and we are on the frontlines of our nation’s aviation security effort every day, empowered to help protect it. This enhanced process recognizes those facts by providing pilots with a technologically modern and highly efficient alternative to the traditional security screening process.” The program is operated jointly by ALPA and ATA with TSA oversight. ALPA originally promoted CrewPASS to the TSA in 2007. CrewPASS has been in use at three East Coast airports for several years, but for a variety of reasons, never became a reality at the rest of our nations airports. The new system leverages current technology to provide an effective yet cost efficient alternative screening solution. What Happens Now? The crewmember identity verification program can be implemented relatively easily and quickly because it relies only on an internet connection to a secure web server and a browser-equipped device (e.g. SmartPhone, iPad, laptop, etc) at TSA designated crewmember access points. Over the next several weeks, the ATA will establish a web service using two isolated, secure servers to route crewmember data between airline employee databases and browser-equipped devices. Testing is then projected to begin at the following airports: Chicago O’Hare, Phoenix Sky Harbor, Boston Logan, Miami International, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Dulles International, and Seattle-Tacoma for a period of approximately 90 days. Any pilot whose employer connects to the system and is currently capable of using CASS will be able to gain access through test checkpoints. ALPA, ATA and the TSA will work together to resolve any problems that may be identified during the test period. Following the test, ATA member airlines and other TSA-regulated airlines will begin implementing the program at airports throughout the country. Because the new program uses existing technology and databases, implementation costs should be minimal, and it is likely that in many if not all cases, participating airlines will assume these costs. The crewmember identity verification program will quickly provide professional pilots with the alternate screening program we have been anticipating for many years. Expect additional details and more information from your union as the program is implemented. |
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Maybe now ALPA can concentrate on something that matters...like overturning the RLA. I love having a 14 hour duty day and getting paid for 3 hours.
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Originally Posted by beech_nut
(Post 974028)
Maybe now ALPA can concentrate on something that matters...like overturning the RLA. I love having a 14 hour duty day and getting paid for 3 hours.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 974044)
It takes more than just dues dollars, it takes tireless volunteers to do this type of work. There is no glory in it, and no matter what you succeed at, someone will always be there telling you how you screwed up. Why don't ya volunteer today! :eek:
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Originally Posted by EagleDriver
(Post 973963)
Guys,
I believe this is an April Fools joke in very poor taste. A few minutes of research on TSA, ALPA and ATA websites revealed no public statements or press release about the approval of CrewPASS for airline pilots. If this was indeed a true story it would make front page news on all these sites as well a the major news sites too. If anyone has any proof of this claim please provide the verification. alfaromeo, any comment? |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 974049)
Volunteering is good... on the other hand becoming the "indocrinated" and knowing nothing but how to tote the ALPA line has been their doing in. Remember this took 3 ALPA presidents and 10 years...
Oh, that's right...they just volunteer behind the keyboard!:p Seriously, though, it took an awful lot of work to get something that you and I would view as "simple" done. Imagine getting ATA, TSA, and ALPA logos on a a single letterhead, and that's just the day before the House R's and ATA put a knife into FTDT to serve their monied best interests. I'm looking forward to your picture in the "thong". :D |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 973958)
How come it's not ALPA, TSA and the ATA gets Crewpass done?
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 974049)
Volunteering is good... on the other hand becoming the "indocrinated" and knowing nothing but how to tote the ALPA line has been their doing in. Remember this took 3 ALPA presidents and 10 years...
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 974077)
Maybe it is you that has been brainwashed by your negativity and lack of effort. Why is it that you have to try to make your point by attacking other people? Do you believe that you do a good job at work, do you believe that Delta tries to run a safe operation, do you believe that the the work you and fellow pilots do run a cut above what's required? Have you been brainwashed by Delta or have you just observed reality? Give me a break, not all of us are so weak minded that we have to have others tell us what to think.
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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 974054)
How many AQFO's did it take?:confused:
Oh, that's right...they just volunteer behind the keyboard!:p Seriously, though, it took an awful lot of work to get something that you and I would view as "simple" done. Imagine getting ATA, TSA, and ALPA logos on a a single letterhead, and that's just the day before the House R's and ATA put a knife into FTDT to serve their monied best interests. I'm looking forward to your picture in the "thong". :D I do participate, however I don't tow the party line and I'm younger than most so I must not know what I'm doing. That seems to be the usual response around that shiny building north of the airport. It was obviously not a simple task... can you point out to me where I said that? I'll be waiting. I did point out the political rhetoric and patting onself on the back that is absolutely constant amongst the alpaoids. |
Do we have any details on when we will be able to use this yet? I remember, I think, that with CrewPass we were going to be able:
1) Use it when commuting off line. 2) Use it when not in uniform? Any rumors? |
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 974077)
Maybe it is you that has been brainwashed by your negativity and lack of effort. Why is it that you have to try to make your point by attacking other people? Do you believe that you do a good job at work, do you believe that Delta tries to run a safe operation, do you believe that the the work you and fellow pilots do run a cut above what's required? Have you been brainwashed by Delta or have you just observed reality? Give me a break, not all of us are so weak minded that we have to have others tell us what to think.
As far as your questions: I try to do a good job at work, Delta tries to run a safe but cost effective operation, and most guys/gays I fly with run a cut above what's required. Note the wording. Whoops, you just made my point... And yes, those deep on the inside do become entreched and in a sense brainwashed and consider that their reality. It is frustrating seeing that reality. ;) |
Congratulations goes out to all pilot unions. SWAPA, APA, IPA and yes even ALPA. 10 years in the making. Thanks to IPA for starting the CASS system in the first place.
Carl |
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