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Old 06-09-2011 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jherk02
Don't forget, any hiring plans after November 2011 will force the hand of most of the 243 furlough bypass types to return or resign.
Or go on Mil Leave.
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Old 06-09-2011 | 06:54 PM
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Does "Low %" mean the maximum percentage of people that must be ABOVE you, or the minimum that must be BELOW you?
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Old 06-09-2011 | 06:58 PM
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% is how far up the list you are. IE 70% is 30% below you. 10% is 90% below you.
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Old 06-09-2011 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
Does "Low %" mean the maximum percentage of people that must be ABOVE you, or the minimum that must be BELOW you?
The answer depends on if you are senior or junior to me?
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Old 06-09-2011 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The answer depends on if you are senior or junior to me?
haha I am very very JR so no worries!
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Old 06-09-2011 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by poostain
QUESTION! if you want to stay in your current base/category do you need to have a bid in at all except a MD bid in case of the unspeakable?

Also, Do you need your current base/category in a bid somewhere?
No need to do anything except MD.
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Old 06-09-2011 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jherk02
Don't forget, any hiring plans after November 2011 will force the hand of most of the 243 furlough bypass types to return or resign.
I think most have till Feb or Mar of 12'. And the Mil leave is a very possible solution for them. However, if Dal isn't hiring/recalling during that time period they get an extra 4 years I think...but once they do get the call there is no more bypassing - either return or quit.

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Old 06-09-2011 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by poostain
Also, Do you need your current base/category in a bid somewhere?
You *can* include your current base/category with a stipulation if you don't want to stay in your category because you were pushed down in relative senoirity.

Example: Say you hold ATL 73N B at 70% (70% of pilots senior/30 junior) You would rather be on the M88 as a line holder than the 73 on reserve, and the 73 (hypothetically!) carries 20% of its pilots on reserve. Your first selction would be ATL 73N B 80%, then ATL M88 B.

At least, that's how I belive it works.
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Old 06-10-2011 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
Or go on Mil Leave.
Not all are mil though, and probably most that are at this point have bypassed recall because they have other jobs they are very hesitant or outright unwilling to give up, and many likely have other flying jobs in the civilian sector. If they were still out only because they "went back in" the military there is no reason they would not have returned previously and then simply went back out on mil leave. To have bypassed the last time just to stay in the military and no other civilian reason would have made no sense from their perspective. The fact that they didn't come back then strongly implies they have another civilian job that they didn't want to give up or at least they wanted as much time to make the decision as they could get (can't blame anyone for that).

But there is no "going on mil leave" trick to keep a finger in every pie like that without taking some huge legal risks for not only both civilian jobs in question but also their mil gig. All in all, its probably likely that at least half will never return. The only ones who will go on mil leave are the ones that would have been on mil leave anyway the last several years and did not have another civilian job they wanted to keep for as long as possible. Probably 100 or so total will come back out of the roughly 250ish, and many of that estimated 100 may indeed go right back on mil leave, but at this point most will likely not come back.
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Old 06-10-2011 | 09:56 AM
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Guy in my NH class is an airbus captain at B6. He is ready to come back. So there are guys still out at civilian jobs just don't count them out just yet.
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