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ewrbasedpilot 06-23-2011 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1012775)
Correct... AMR doesn't want to rely on just one manufacturer, in case the assembly line gets shut down. Fleet diversification can make sense. Especially with the deal Airbus is probably offering.

With the dollar so pathetically low, how on God's earth can Airbus be offering such great deals on their planes? To the contrary, they should be a LOT more than any Boeing products. Something smells fishy here. Before you know it, they'll be offering their pilots to our companies for half the wages and benefits we get...........

Bucking Bar 06-23-2011 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 1012777)
Nothing like keeping more Europeans employed. And then we wonder why unemployment is so high in the USA. This, in my opinion, is just as bad as cabotage. Dell lost me as a repeat customer because I got tired of talking to someone in India every time I had a problem. We continue to be our own worst enemy. Maybe we should look to Europe for our CEO's. At least they don't soak the company for millions in bonuses and pay every year. :rolleyes:

Absolutely!

chuck416 06-23-2011 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by windrider (Post 1012748)
if there is a merger it will be B6 buying AA...they're broke in case you haven't heard

Since when did that ever fail to stop an airline CEO from doing something stupid???

gloopy 06-23-2011 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 1012780)
With the dollar so pathetically low, how on God's earth can Airbus be offering such great deals on their planes? To the contrary, they should be a LOT more than any Boeing products. Something smells fishy here. Before you know it, they'll be offering their pilots to our companies for half the wages and benefits we get...........

The Euro is falling hard too. While we watch the daily gyrations of either one compared to the other, they are both falling against reality (gas, food, raw materials, etc). The true test isn't how many you get for your dollars when you get off the plane, its how much actual stuff you can buy with what you have. It ain't much in either case and will get worse in both.

bluejuice71 06-23-2011 07:35 AM

I though American had a bunch of orders for 737-800's to replace the MD80's. What would an Airbus order be replacing?

johnso29 06-23-2011 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 1012777)
Nothing like keeping more Europeans employed. And then we wonder why unemployment is so high in the USA. This, in my opinion, is just as bad as cabotage. Dell lost me as a repeat customer because I got tired of talking to someone in India every time I had a problem. We continue to be our own worst enemy. Maybe we should look to Europe for our CEO's. At least they don't soak the company for millions in bonuses and pay every year. :rolleyes:

Unfortunately Boeing is offering a absolutely craptastic product right now. Until they swallow their pride and realize the 737 is not the save all aircraft they'll continue to lose customers. They need to build a completely redesigned airplane with geared turbo fans to compete with the 320 NEO. Not to mention all the egg on their face from the 787 disaster.

Sliceback 06-23-2011 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by bluejuice71 (Post 1012865)
I though American had a bunch of orders for 737-800's to replace the MD80's. What would an Airbus order be replacing?

Depending upon the model ordered it could be S80's or 757's.

paxhauler85 06-23-2011 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1012874)
Unfortunately Boeing is offering a absolutely craptastic product right now. Until they swallow their pride and realize the 737 is not the save all aircraft they'll continue to lose customers. They need to build a completely redesigned airplane with geared turbo fans to compete with the 320 NEO. Not to mention all the egg on their face from the 787 disaster.

I think the airbus product is garbage. Comforatable? Absolutely, but otherwise garbage. They won't stand the test of time like the 707 (still flying), 727, 737, 747, 757, and 767.

While companies may not love everything about the 737, they realize they are buying a well-made, proven, and dependable airplane. The same can't be said about Fifi.

Surprise 06-23-2011 09:37 AM

On a related note, why do the hydraulic pumps on the A320 always sound like they're dying after shutdown? Or single engine taxi?

But I rode in the back on Alaska the other day and was quite comfortable.

l1011 06-23-2011 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 1012777)
Nothing like keeping more Europeans employed. And then we wonder why unemployment is so high in the USA. This, in my opinion, is just as bad as cabotage. Dell lost me as a repeat customer because I got tired of talking to someone in India every time I had a problem. We continue to be our own worst enemy. Maybe we should look to Europe for our CEO's. At least they don't soak the company for millions in bonuses and pay every year. :rolleyes:

Totally agree.

What happened to American Pride and supporting your own countries industry and jobs. Personally I will pay more for the same ticket on an airline that operates primarily US built equipment and when I book a ticket I refuse to book a airbus flight. Just my own little personal form of protest to the outsourcing of American jobs.


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