American Payscale Question
09-30-2011 | 09:29 PM
#2
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The last new hire class was in Sept 2001 and that class hasn't been recalled yet.
I don't know the hire date of the most junior person on property is currently.
And no, I don't work for AA. I just happen to know one of the guys that was in the last new hire class.
I don't know the hire date of the most junior person on property is currently.
And no, I don't work for AA. I just happen to know one of the guys that was in the last new hire class.
10-01-2011 | 06:09 AM
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Well, the most junior pilot on the property today would be a recently recalled ex TWA pilot hired at TWA in Feb, 2000 - seniority #9840. That hire date corresponds to an AA hire date of April, 2001.
In other words, AA is currently recalling a huge block of pilots with an April 2001 hire date. They should hit the bottom of the furlough list (Sept 2001 hire date) by the end of the year.
Then, approx 142 AE pilots flow through... then, AA goes back UP the list of pilots who have deferred, starting the 3 year clock... this is the point at which they can start new hires. Apps should start going out in January for a May/June new hire class.
In other words, AA is currently recalling a huge block of pilots with an April 2001 hire date. They should hit the bottom of the furlough list (Sept 2001 hire date) by the end of the year.
Then, approx 142 AE pilots flow through... then, AA goes back UP the list of pilots who have deferred, starting the 3 year clock... this is the point at which they can start new hires. Apps should start going out in January for a May/June new hire class.
10-01-2011 | 11:22 AM
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10-01-2011 | 03:24 PM
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Well, the most junior pilot on the property today would be a recently recalled ex TWA pilot hired at TWA in Feb, 2000 - seniority #9840. That hire date corresponds to an AA hire date of April, 2001.
In other words, AA is currently recalling a huge block of pilots with an April 2001 hire date. They should hit the bottom of the furlough list (Sept 2001 hire date) by the end of the year.
Then, approx 142 AE pilots flow through... then, AA goes back UP the list of pilots who have deferred, starting the 3 year clock... this is the point at which they can start new hires. Apps should start going out in January for a May/June new hire class.
In other words, AA is currently recalling a huge block of pilots with an April 2001 hire date. They should hit the bottom of the furlough list (Sept 2001 hire date) by the end of the year.
Then, approx 142 AE pilots flow through... then, AA goes back UP the list of pilots who have deferred, starting the 3 year clock... this is the point at which they can start new hires. Apps should start going out in January for a May/June new hire class.
10-01-2011 | 04:49 PM
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Thanks, you're correct: clock starts when most Jr pilot gets recalled, and pilots have 3 years to un-defer. At the end of the 3 years, AA goes back up the list in reverse seniority order, at which point they either un-defer or resign. In the meantime, they start hiring off the street.
10-02-2011 | 02:32 AM
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Thanks, you're correct: clock starts when most Jr pilot gets recalled, and pilots have 3 years to un-defer. At the end of the 3 years, AA goes back up the list in reverse seniority order, at which point they either un-defer or resign. In the meantime, they start hiring off the street.
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