AA closes SFO crew base
#21
2) Who knows where they'll go....
3) BOS, DC? They'll probably close, too. That'll leave LGA/JFK, MIA, DFW, STL, ORD, and LAX.
#22
Just because they are closing the pilot domicile doesn't mean that they are cutting routes.
It is one less CPO and staff, and one less set of reserves you have to pay for.....That alone could make it worth the savings, without dropping a single flight. Who really knows, more like a nasty negotiating tactic.
It is one less CPO and staff, and one less set of reserves you have to pay for.....That alone could make it worth the savings, without dropping a single flight. Who really knows, more like a nasty negotiating tactic.
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That thought has crossed my mind.
Richard is ruthless and BA is his archenemy.
Putting a big dent into AA and their portion of OneWorld would definitely hurt BA's Americas operation.
VX put a lot of capacity into AA hubs lately (ORD, DFW)
Its perhaps a little more than just coincidence.
Virgin America does seem to have limitless access to cash
Cheers
George
Richard is ruthless and BA is his archenemy.
Putting a big dent into AA and their portion of OneWorld would definitely hurt BA's Americas operation.
VX put a lot of capacity into AA hubs lately (ORD, DFW)
Its perhaps a little more than just coincidence.
Virgin America does seem to have limitless access to cash
Cheers
George
#24
They won't be going to STL; no vacancy sign there. My guess is LAX/MIA/LGA. And many of those senior CAs will not want to commute, so they'll retire instead (with full pensions intact).
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I will respectfully disagree with this. AA will squash us if and when they take full aim. Their closing of the base is due to retirements. Their flights to DFW and ORD seem to always be pretty full. We have only added a few flts a day to each and they are hardly being bothered by us. We however continue to bleed cash. How much longer will we chug along? I can't imagine very much longer but stranger things have happened.
#28
An early warning sign to watch for is the establishment of special "bankruptcy-proof" pensions (at DAL they were called SERPs), for senior executives. These are usually touted as "necessary to retain top talent" (who demonstrate their talent by taking the money and vanishing). 

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#30
I wouldnt say bleeding is the right word. When someone is bleeding they try to treat the wound. You guys are building a Sim in SFO, expanding your HQ, and are experiencing some of the most aggressive hiring you ever have. It sounds like your 5 year growth plan attracted enough US investors to keep you alive till then. Id expect you to show 2-3 qtrs of profit next year to set up your IPO.
I'm surprised to see the AA SFO closure considering they just got their new digs in T2. Maybe it really has nothing to do with capacity into SFO, I don't imagine they will reduce flying and hand over their brand new gates to VX after waiting so long for them. This industry is a soap opera!
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