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gunboat 10-14-2011 11:26 AM

DALPA on notice
 
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Economic Justice Petition: Delta Air Lines ALPA Leadership: 2013 Contract Restoration & Enhancement | Change.org

Pineapple Guy 10-14-2011 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by gunboat (Post 1069607)

Interesting proposal. In part it says,

"Deliver a best-in-industry contract--at LEAST C2K rates plus inflation, to include restoration of working conditons. Reserve guarantee will be at least 75 hours per month. Scope is not for sale. The company can handily afford it, and you all know it.

If you fail to deliver on these very reasonable expectations, we WILL replace ALPA as our collective bargaining agent."


So, I assume you have a long list of entities out there that could deliver that, assuming ALPA doesn't?

APA - no
SWAPA - no
USAPA - no
IPA - no

cni187 10-14-2011 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by gunboat (Post 1069607)

Man you should stop hiding behind the net and start going to MEC/LEC meetings or just flat out call your ALPA reps

DAL 88 Driver 10-14-2011 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by gunboat (Post 1069607)

I wouldn't mind signing this... I agree with it. However, I am reluctant to submit my name, email address, home address, etc. to a web site where I do not know if my information is secure. I didn't see anything on the web page that addresses that concern.

Sniper 10-14-2011 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1069610)
Interesting proposal. In part it says,

"Deliver a best-in-industry contract--at LEAST C2K rates plus inflation, to include restoration of working conditons. Reserve guarantee will be at least 75 hours per month. Scope is not for sale. The company can handily afford it, and you all know it.

Delta reported a profit of $198M in 2Q2011, down 58%.

Now, I'm sure there are all kinds of accounting tricks being used to arrive at that $198M, but, can anyone put a reasonable cost to this proposal - ie, can Delta handily afford it?

I'm not arguing that Delta's pilots don't deserve it.

DAL 88 Driver 10-14-2011 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1069626)
Man you should stop hiding behind the net and start going to MEC/LEC meetings or just flat out call your ALPA reps

How do you know he hasn't been going to MEC/LEC meetings and called his reps? Maybe he's had the same experience I've had with this... which led him to see the need for an alternative route such as this.

Check Essential 10-14-2011 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1069627)
I wouldn't mind signing this... I agree with it. However, I am reluctant to submit my name, email address, home address, etc. to a web site where I do not know if my information is secure. I didn't see anything on the web page that addresses that concern.

Ditto.
I might/might not agree with the Delta petition but I wouldn't give personal info to the organization running that website.
Their other content is mostly lunatic fringe political stuff.

Bill Lumberg 10-14-2011 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper (Post 1069628)
Delta reported a profit of $198M in 2Q2011, down 58%.

Now, I'm sure there are all kinds of accounting tricks being used to arrive at that $198M, but, can anyone put a reasonable cost to this proposal - ie, can Delta handily afford it?

I'm not arguing that Delta's pilots don't deserve it.

That $198 million was actually $366 million, but they had to pay off the 2000 people(168 pilots and the rest were other employees) who took early out retirement offers. Q1 numbers were affected by the earthquake and tsunami in Japan. Q3 numbers are estimated around $790 million. Last year Delta made $950 million in bag fees alone, and paid off $2 billion in debt. Another $700 million in debt was paid down in Q2 of this year. Any more questions?

Bill Lumberg 10-14-2011 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1069610)
Interesting proposal. In part it says,

"Deliver a best-in-industry contract--at LEAST C2K rates plus inflation, to include restoration of working conditons. Reserve guarantee will be at least 75 hours per month. Scope is not for sale. The company can handily afford it, and you all know it.

If you fail to deliver on these very reasonable expectations, we WILL replace ALPA as our collective bargaining agent."


So, I assume you have a long list of entities out there that could deliver that, assuming ALPA doesn't?

APA - no
SWAPA - no
USAPA - no
IPA - no

The DPA will deliver if ALPA won't. Just keep saying to yourself "$950 million in BAG FEES." Say again and again. That was a fee that airlines NEVER used to have, and now they do. Rinse and repeat several times.

Bill Lumberg 10-14-2011 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1069626)
Man you should stop hiding behind the net and start going to MEC/LEC meetings or just flat out call your ALPA reps

I guess you weren't at the last PTC meeting with O'M. They expressed PLENTY there. All I heard was "we are waiting for the surveys......." I guess he couldn't hear the people yelling at him.


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