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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1069911)

FWIW, RA stated about a two years ago that those bag fees would be beneficial when it came to contract time. (Stated when pilots were complaining about the baggage fees)

Also, fares were successfully raised 10 times this year and I believe 8 times last year. The baggage fees are in reality one fee they got to add on and did not have to decouple the dollar amount from the ticket price when they added the baggage fee.

Now if we could get a domestic fuel surcharge removed from the base fare, then we would be in business. Write your congressman :D

Airlines Federal Taxes and Fees:

7.5 percent tax on the base ticket price.
Domestic segment tax of $3.70 per person per segment (a single takeoff and single landing).
International travel facilities tax of $16.30 per person for flights that begin or end in the U.S., or $8.20 per person for a flight that begins or ends in Alaska or Hawaii.
6.25 percent tax on the amount paid for transporting property by air.

AMTRAK

Absolutely None

Difference AMTRAK is owned by the federal government, and the airlines are not. Airlines seem to be in the cross-hairs of our politicians because it makes for a good sound bite and strikes a commiserative cord with the traveling public. People hate to spend a lot of money on flying, and then find the experience dissatisfying and unenjoyable.

Not to stray to a political tone here, but politicians will always prey on the emotion and sentiment of the American people. Every fare increase or fee we institute will will cause more anger, resentment, and consternation.
Personally, I could care less, but it's the Washington Wild Card that scares me and leaves for a good amount of uncertain tax liabilities that can quickly turn the our black into red.

How about a government mandated "pilot tax" for our pay so the company's can just build it in also. The govenment certifies us as pilots, call it a "safety" tax and we're all set ;-)

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1069698)

Bill, true, but all they've really done is split out that fee from the regular price of a ticket. It's not like that is extra revenue, it's simply a different way of collecting it. Compare total RASM today, vs before 9/11 and let me know what you find....

The results are in, and this is what we've found: You're a BS'er who just makes this stuff up to fuel whatever agenda it is you have. Bag fees are in addition to fares that have ALSO been rising.

Carl

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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1069862)

Either DALPA aims high and recaptures a respectable raise for us, or the DPA may get the next shot at it. It's really that easy.

I agree. It's that easy. Either ALPA gets the pilots what they want, or there could be an alternative.

Now answer these easy questions:

1. Should ALPA get what 25% of the pilots want...or what 75% of the pilots want?

2. If ALPA recaptures what most of the pilots want, will the "not most" of the pilots recognize where they fit on the graph?

3. Can you name the two ways any organization can determine what the majority of their group wants?

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1069702)

Bill, you need to take accounting 101. Then we can talk further..

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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1069703)

Here we go again. And you guys need to take a PR class. If you can't see that the airline is making money hand over fist, you must actually be an MEC member. Put downs like yours above do nothing but give the DPA more viability. Keep it up. Typical ALPA nonsense, "You don't know what you are talking about, let us handle it, at the Ritz Carlton..."

OK Pineapple Guy, let's discuss the accounting process in a way that even people without accounting 101 can understand. Let's take it step by step. Here's my first question:

When a corporation like Delta decides to PAY DOWN debt - what funds do they use to do this?

Carl

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1069946)

Oh, this should be fun. Let's take turns.

Answer: Cash

And here's my first question:

When a corporation pays down debt, what effect does that have on their net income?

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1069824)

I thought DPAers were being challenged to run for ALPA offices and effect change from within?

Said another way:

I thought DPAers were being challenged to run for ALPA office and affect change from within?

I really don't know what's right. But the grammar gallery does, and for those folks:

http://mediacdn.snorgtees.com/media/..._fullpic_1.jpg

or

http://mediacdn.snorgtees.com/media/..._fullpic_6.jpg

Grammar nazi's, take your pic, i mean my pic, your a pic... I mean you're a pick. a euro ick. i can ryhme. rhyme.

i quit. this hard.

There is no apostrophe used when you pluralize most words. nazis is the plural, not nazi's. So there. Barn grads are so dense. Go milk something.

Oh, and LSU gonna lose today. (no, I don't really believe THAT)

This petition is childish. It reminds me of elementary school.

Back on track... that petition is the STUPIDEST thing I have seen on the interwebs in a long time.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1069733)

Here is the important question. If DALPA opens for a full restoration contract and states they will except nothing less and 4 years later we are still working under this POS contract and benched by the NMB is that a victory?

What if DALPA opens with the ENTIRE SWAPA contract plus 5% and states they will accept nothing less? The NMB couldn't possibly bench us for demanding what our competitor has from our also very profitable company. Wouldn't that be a victory sailingfun?

Carl