That has nothing to do with the question here finis. Management and DALPA have been crying poor mouth about how tough the revenue environment is and how thin their margins are. Many of us have been saying that management CHOOSES where they attempt revenue gains. Bag fees are just one example that didn't even exist a few years ago.

It doesn't matter that DAL might be break even without baggage fees. It only matters that DAL chooses to NOT explore other revenue possibilities for the express purpose of paying their pilot investors who saved the company from liquidation. Your constant apology for management might serve your own personal desire, but it's a recipe for Delta pilots to continue to operate under what is close to the worst overall contract in our industry.

Carl

Sorry, Carl. You asked a question - I answered it (apparently correctly). Now its my turn to ask and YOUR turn to answer. Remember what we learned in kindergarten??? We take turns...:)

Carl, QUICK! Put your oxygen mask back on! You're showing signs of hypoxia!

Why should PG answer his own question? You wanted to discuss the accounting process. You asked a question. He answered it. He asked a question. You avoided it by deflecting, (kinda an ALPA move, Maverick.) Please tell me we shouldn't expect these tactics from the DPA supporters...otherwise, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Not according to some.

With a large pilot group like ours it's important for the MEC to get input from the pilots before announcing any position on what our goals are. Fill out the surveys!

You got about 22% all in plus over 5% of the company stock due to the JCBA. Plus we've been paid over $100 million in profit sharing (with a smaller amount projected for February) and didn't furlough a pilot like everyone else. You assert we could have had more...I'm sure you've got concrete examples to support your point of view, right?

How much did SWAPA get for their merger (already closed business transaction)?

How much did UAL/CAL get for their merger?

How about AMR/TWA?

And we didn't use the leverage? Right....:rolleyes:

Independent...because an organization can't be trusted? Is that right?

ALPA can't be trusted. DPA can't be trusted. No organization can be trusted.

Your honesty is illuminating. Now can you name the OTHER way an organization can tell?

OK fine, but the only thing I learned in Kindergarten was that my teacher had very large boobs. And for some reason, I couldn't take my eyes off of them.

Here was your question again:

Answer: It depends upon what GAAP rules the company's accountants use to account for the paying down of debt.

Let me know when it's my turn again.

Carl

Really? You think our 70 hour reserve guarantee is NOT near the worst in the industry? You think our pathetic Scope language is the NOT the VERY worst in the industry? You think the fact that somebody like me at the top of the heap at Delta only makes about 25K per year more than an SWA First Officer is not nearly the worst pay? You think that a domestic 3 day trip worth 11 hours isn't an example of nearly the worst trip/duty rig in the industry?

Really man, if you think I'm hypoxic, what do they call someone who still has his new hire Kool-Aid flowing in his veins?

Carl

Indeed! But shouldn't our MEC extend the date of the deadline until they publish the contract comparisons of our JV partners?

Carl