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capncrunch 10-16-2011 08:36 AM
Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1070411)
Their DC plan funding.

Their Reserve rules.
And the second half of his question, would you vote no to the entire contract because of the two things you mentioned?

NuGuy 10-16-2011 01:02 PM
Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 1070476)
And the second half of his question, would you vote no to the entire contract because of the two things you mentioned?
At some point we all need to become "single issue voters", because otherwise, we get nibbled to death.

Nu

galaxy flyer 10-16-2011 01:28 PM
By the way, to be in the top 1% of earners in 2010, you had to make over $380,000.
Isn't that the goal? Become part of the 1%!

GF

tsquare 10-16-2011 03:29 PM
I have a couple of single issue no votes. I have NEVER had that before, but I certainly do now.

capncrunch 10-16-2011 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1070558)
At some point we all need to become "single issue voters", because otherwise, we get nibbled to death.

Nu
I agree 100%. I was just painting ACL into the corner he conveniently avoided by not answering Carls full question. We all know the answer anyway so it was just to point out that we see what's going on.

buzzpat 10-16-2011 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by jayme (Post 1070362)
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that they are upset that the top 1% of the population are amassing more and more of the wealth, while the rest of us fight over the scraps. Pilot unions should share in that frustration. Instead I don't see any sympathy among this crowd.

Bucking Bar, I haven't seen or heard of anybody suggesting they "despise" anybody making over $100,000 a year (maybe the commentators on whichever new channel you watch?). Just frustration about the growing gap between the haves and have-nots.

The frustration with well-paid management as you are left fighitng over the scraps seems like a pretty clear parallel with the Occupy Wall Street crowd. This isn't an insult, just an observation.

By the way, to be in the top 1% of earners in 2010, you had to make over $380,000.
I'm always suspicious of the causes that George Soros fronts and his fingerprints are all over this. Code Pink and United for Peace and Justice are two of the heaviest hitters in the worldwide protests and they're both funded by Soros and his Open Societies Institute. Thus the complete lack of empathy on my part.

buzzpat 10-16-2011 03:55 PM
Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1070590)
I have a couple of single issue no votes. I have NEVER had that before, but I certainly do now.
Me as well T. Two very big single issue no votes.

Carl Spackler 10-16-2011 05:26 PM
Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1070332)
You've contacted the DPA advisors and explained this to them, right? That isn't how Seham does it at USAPA, or he did it at PFAA, or AMFA...the group you crossed a picket line to kill.
Wow. Two lies in two sentences. You haven't the smallest idea of how Lee Seham does things anywhere. You're just making it up...and it shows.

Regarding me crossing a picket line to kill NWA mechanics, I crossed NO picket lines. Our union (you know, you're beloved ALPA) said we had no legal rights to honor their strike without being in violation of the RLA among other things. I know you know this already, you're just doing what you normally do...lie and distort to keep people from talking about what you want kept silent. Fail!

Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1070332)
What makes you think Seham will let Timmy use a third party?
Do you even know how pathetic this makes you sound?

Carl

Carl Spackler 10-16-2011 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1070332)
The other method is called Membership Ratification.
That would be right except the topic was gauging pilot opinions BEFORE any TA to ratify. As I said earlier, there is only one way to do that - a survey done by an independent entity, compiled by an independent entity, and whose data is released immediately after compilation.

Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1070332)
I knew you wouldn't remember that one. It is how ALPA has validated it's performance at getting contracts.
It's certainly not how they've validated some LOA's and scope cave-ins outside of Section 6.

Carl

iceman49 10-16-2011 05:31 PM
Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1070332)
You've contacted the DPA advisors and explained this to them, right? That isn't how Seham does it at USAPA, or he did it at PFAA, or AMFA...the group you crossed a picket line to kill.

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Unless you were in the room, you don't know what you're talking about concerning AMFA.


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