Delta posts $765M profit in 3Q
01-01-2012 | 06:19 PM
#141
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From: 767er Captain
So will DPA establish a PAC if they ever take the reins? I can only imagine how much access THAT war chest will buy. (Disclaimer: I give not one red cent to PACs because I believe they are the fundamental reason that our country is as ****ed up politically as it is)
01-02-2012 | 05:26 AM
#142
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I don't know about your reps but mine have been in the lounge constantly for the last two month answering questions. I have known several reps over the years. They work far harder then any line pilot ever does. Most burn out on the work schedule and go back to the line for a vacation. If there is a issue with pay for our Dalpa reps and other workers its that we don't pay them enough. I am lazy enough that I would not consider union work for 150 hours pay per month.
01-02-2012 | 05:45 AM
#143
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The absolute pinnacle of ALPA arrogance. "Here at ALPA, we work so much harder than you lazy slobs can ever begin to fathom."
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
01-02-2012 | 06:35 AM
#144
The Brown Dot +1
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From: 777B
The absolute pinnacle of ALPA arrogance. "Here at ALPA, we work so much harder than you lazy slobs can ever begin to fathom."
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
Your logic chain is a non-sequitur.
I took Sailings post as Reps work harder than line pilots work (for Delta air lines)...While his premise is not sound, he did not qualify the statement as work in total.
He isn't part of the DALPA bureaucracy, just a DALPA defender.
Is it your premise that standing up a new union will not require work - at the same level of the "DALPA bureaucracy" or is this simply a stone throwing contest? Do you hate your career so much that you just want to burn everything down?
I want ALPA gone yesterday, but honestly, YOU do not represent my interests. I get Carl and agree with almost everything he says, but you are far too fringe for my taste. Your rhetoric is hollow.
01-02-2012 | 08:09 AM
#145
seeing the country...
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And a fair amount of the flying that he did have (his plane is overstaffed, it wasn't a ton) had was YS, so it's not like he's trying to avoid work. In fact, he ended up with a long trip that had him flying from before Christmas and until after New Year's. Sounds cushy.
01-02-2012 | 09:37 AM
#146
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From: 767er Captain
The absolute pinnacle of ALPA arrogance. "Here at ALPA, we work so much harder than you lazy slobs can ever begin to fathom."
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
01-02-2012 | 11:23 AM
#147
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
Your logic chain is a non-sequitur.
I took Sailings post as Reps work harder than line pilots work (for Delta air lines)...While his premise is not sound, he did not qualify the statement as work in total.
He isn't part of the DALPA bureaucracy, just a DALPA defender.
Is it your premise that standing up a new union will not require work - at the same level of the "DALPA bureaucracy" or is this simply a stone throwing contest? Do you hate your career so much that you just want to burn everything down?
I want ALPA gone yesterday, but honestly, YOU do not represent my interests. I get Carl and agree with almost everything he says, but you are far too fringe for my taste. Your rhetoric is hollow.
I took Sailings post as Reps work harder than line pilots work (for Delta air lines)...While his premise is not sound, he did not qualify the statement as work in total.
He isn't part of the DALPA bureaucracy, just a DALPA defender.
Is it your premise that standing up a new union will not require work - at the same level of the "DALPA bureaucracy" or is this simply a stone throwing contest? Do you hate your career so much that you just want to burn everything down?
I want ALPA gone yesterday, but honestly, YOU do not represent my interests. I get Carl and agree with almost everything he says, but you are far too fringe for my taste. Your rhetoric is hollow.
01-02-2012 | 04:34 PM
#148
Line Holder
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From: 765A
I don't know about your reps but mine have been in the lounge constantly for the last two month answering questions. I have known several reps over the years. They work far harder then any line pilot ever does. Most burn out on the work schedule and go back to the line for a vacation. If there is a issue with pay for our Dalpa reps and other workers its that we don't pay them enough. I am lazy enough that I would not consider union work for 150 hours pay per month.
01-02-2012 | 05:21 PM
#149
Can't abide NAI
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Of course there are those DPA committee guys that took loans from the Delta pilot funded furlough and emergency relief fund, then refused to honor their committment to pay that back.
A resolution needs to be put forward to recover the money due Delta pilots.
01-02-2012 | 05:56 PM
#150
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Of course it is fact...in your world (and Carl's world I suppose); and no matter how much sense the rest of Carl's post makes, it is these emotional, Ad Hominem attacks that is so detestable and reminiscent of the USAPA movement, that assures the ultimate failure of DPA....of course, that is just my opinion (not a "fact")
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