Systematically Creating Unity II
10-21-2006 | 06:49 AM
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Systematically Creating Unity II
If pilots seriously wish to prosper in the "free market," Agency Shop as we know it must go. It is a noticeably archaic policy that prevents the "tension" of the free marketplace wherein people can stop buying the product if they no longer like it. It inhibits the influx of innovative ideas, it creates apathy, and it makes leaders lazy. If anything can be said about airline executives, they are not lazy. They have learned to compete well, and one of their weakest competitors today is...Labor.
It is gratifying that others are now beginning to see the negative impact of Agency Shop on unionism. Here is an excerpt from the platform of the PEARL group at UAL, the organization that is trying to get ALPA decertified:
Dear United Airlines Pilots,
...Here are some of the highlights of the positive changes you can expect from the United Pilots Association:
This WILL NOT be an Agency Shop union - What better way to maintain control of YOUR union than to ultimately hold the financial purse strings....
And this from Dan Brannan's website (Dan was, until several weeks ago, a candidate for the ALPA presidency):
6. Agency Shop: I will direct an investigation into the value of Agency Shop in the competitive marketplace. I want to know whether pilots are union members because they truly believe that they are getting value for their dues dollar, or because they don't have a choice. If the latter is true, then our high membership numbers mask our internal weaknesses and enable dominance by our competitors. The question is: Is our product worth the price? Can we sell it on the open market, or is it only marketable to a captive audience? There are solutions available to both balance the financial needs of the organization and to permit members to express themselves with their feet and pocketbooks. If deemed useful, we will implement them. Only by permitting this kind of dissent can we truly gauge the support and non-support of our membership.
In response to the following poll statement:
...Nobody should be required to join or support a union as a condition of employment.
73% of Americans answered "Yes", including 54% of union members!
(See: http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/06_04_LW.pdf
It is no secret that Americans see unions as more corrupt than management, and they will not risk joining an organization from which they cannot walk away.
In the open market, Agency Shop is nothing more than an indicator that a union cannot sell its goods based on merit. It is counter-competitive and it is not a sign of strength. If pilots wish to learn to compete successfully with airline executives, Agency Shop must go.
It is gratifying that others are now beginning to see the negative impact of Agency Shop on unionism. Here is an excerpt from the platform of the PEARL group at UAL, the organization that is trying to get ALPA decertified:
Dear United Airlines Pilots,
...Here are some of the highlights of the positive changes you can expect from the United Pilots Association:
This WILL NOT be an Agency Shop union - What better way to maintain control of YOUR union than to ultimately hold the financial purse strings....
And this from Dan Brannan's website (Dan was, until several weeks ago, a candidate for the ALPA presidency):
6. Agency Shop: I will direct an investigation into the value of Agency Shop in the competitive marketplace. I want to know whether pilots are union members because they truly believe that they are getting value for their dues dollar, or because they don't have a choice. If the latter is true, then our high membership numbers mask our internal weaknesses and enable dominance by our competitors. The question is: Is our product worth the price? Can we sell it on the open market, or is it only marketable to a captive audience? There are solutions available to both balance the financial needs of the organization and to permit members to express themselves with their feet and pocketbooks. If deemed useful, we will implement them. Only by permitting this kind of dissent can we truly gauge the support and non-support of our membership.
In response to the following poll statement:
...Nobody should be required to join or support a union as a condition of employment.
73% of Americans answered "Yes", including 54% of union members!
(See: http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/06_04_LW.pdf
It is no secret that Americans see unions as more corrupt than management, and they will not risk joining an organization from which they cannot walk away.
In the open market, Agency Shop is nothing more than an indicator that a union cannot sell its goods based on merit. It is counter-competitive and it is not a sign of strength. If pilots wish to learn to compete successfully with airline executives, Agency Shop must go.
Last edited by rjlavender; 10-21-2006 at 10:00 AM.
10-21-2006 | 07:22 AM
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we're still waiting Bob
Age 60 train wreck at FDX. We are still waiting to hear about it.
Bob? Bob?...(sound of crickets chirping)
I think the one thing that creates "natural unity" here at FDX is that the vast majority of pilots thinks you are a total numbskull who's megalomaniacal ramblings are totally out of phase with our pilot group.
What MEC/LEC position was that you ran for? Oh, how many committees have you served on? Right, I thought so.
Real Estate isn't doing so well. Better get on the VLT list.
Bob? Bob?...(sound of crickets chirping)
I think the one thing that creates "natural unity" here at FDX is that the vast majority of pilots thinks you are a total numbskull who's megalomaniacal ramblings are totally out of phase with our pilot group.
What MEC/LEC position was that you ran for? Oh, how many committees have you served on? Right, I thought so.
Real Estate isn't doing so well. Better get on the VLT list.
Last edited by ClutchCargo; 10-21-2006 at 07:22 AM. Reason: puntuation
10-21-2006 | 08:17 AM
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From: MD-11
To All United pilots... Listen to Boob, he's the smartest guy in the airline industy. Get rid of ALPA elect Boob as president of your new union he can bring over a copy of the contract FPA got us at FDX as his template for the new union that will bring unity, hapiness and profitability back to UAL. And you can do all this without paying a dime. Just tithe 10% of your income to Boob's favorite cult,, um I mean charity, and you will be able to work til ya die. We sure will miss him because the train wrecks coming at FDX and with out Boob its sure to bankrupt the company.. Boob please don't go , lead us to SALVATION
LOL!
10-23-2006 | 09:49 AM
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If pilots seriously wish to prosper in the "free market," Agency Shop as we know it must go. It is a noticeably archaic policy that prevents the "tension" of the free marketplace wherein people can stop buying the product if they no longer like it. It inhibits the influx of innovative ideas, it creates apathy, and it makes leaders lazy. If anything can be said about airline executives, they are not lazy. They have learned to compete well, and one of their weakest competitors today is...Labor..
Turn in your stripes and get a JOB in Airline MGT. You'll make more and the stuff you are spouting will fall on more favorable ears.
You can really cut down on your long diatribes on this forum by
Simply stating what you really mean...."Let's simply do away with UNIONS"
Isn't that what you really mean BOB............I mean the Majority spoke even if it wasn't a landslide...........
Just one older guys opinion.
One who was glad to have the contracts that were negotiated on my behalf............most by ALPA.
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