Would you leave Jetblue for United?
#481
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But, at least we have no pilot retirements and a garbage contract!
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#484
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Originally Posted by atrdriver;2315852"Why [i
wouldn't[/i] you leave jetblue for united?"
#485
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Sometime between your first and second heart attack.
Want to go to FedEx or UPS? Jumpseat on them and sit through a sort in the middle of the night while waiting for your flight out of MEM/IND/SDF. I'm pretty sure that the person who thought up the zombie craze had to sit through an overnight sort.
Want to go to FedEx or UPS? Jumpseat on them and sit through a sort in the middle of the night while waiting for your flight out of MEM/IND/SDF. I'm pretty sure that the person who thought up the zombie craze had to sit through an overnight sort.
#486
Sometime between your first and second heart attack.
Want to go to FedEx or UPS? Jumpseat on them and sit through a sort in the middle of the night while waiting for your flight out of MEM/IND/SDF. I'm pretty sure that the person who thought up the zombie craze had to sit through an overnight sort.
Want to go to FedEx or UPS? Jumpseat on them and sit through a sort in the middle of the night while waiting for your flight out of MEM/IND/SDF. I'm pretty sure that the person who thought up the zombie craze had to sit through an overnight sort.
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#490
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I think that’s largely a function of seniority/longevity, age, where you live or want to live, and what you want out of your job. If you live close enough to drive to JFK, it’s probably a wash location wise. Driving to work in Florida at B6? Probably not ideal to begin commuting to UAL. West coast guy and not super senior at blue? Prob worth it to switch. In general, bottom 10%, probably even bottom 20%, it’s probably worth leaving. Depending on the variables, maybe even bottom 30% or even higher. Want to fly widebodies? Probably worth leaving. Want to check that “legacy” box for career satisfaction/ego purposes? Prob worth leaving.
We definitely aren’t out of the woods with covid. This whole delta variant and rising case counts and fear and such will likely result in, at a minimum, more delay for business and international to return, at worse another period of time burning $millions a day. JetBlue now has lower net debt than they did pre-covid. Not sure about UAL, but regardless, if I’m in the safeish zone at one airline, going to the very bottom of another carries some risk, especially one that’s already levered quite a bit. On the other hand, it’ll be mitigated quickly so long as things stay on track and UALs hiring continues in earnest, but we saw how quickly things turned last March (and then back again this March). We also saw “too big to fail” is likely a thing with airlines though, and on top of that, retirements will help mitigate things. So, If SHTF again, risk is lower than I’d normally say an industry devastating event (like more lockdowns/restrictions) would be.
Nobody will truly know the answer until retirement. But, seems like for a 0-3/4/5 year guy at jetblue, maybe longer depending on variables, it could make sense to start over from a career expectation standpoint depending on where you live and appetite for a little short term risk/pay cut.
We definitely aren’t out of the woods with covid. This whole delta variant and rising case counts and fear and such will likely result in, at a minimum, more delay for business and international to return, at worse another period of time burning $millions a day. JetBlue now has lower net debt than they did pre-covid. Not sure about UAL, but regardless, if I’m in the safeish zone at one airline, going to the very bottom of another carries some risk, especially one that’s already levered quite a bit. On the other hand, it’ll be mitigated quickly so long as things stay on track and UALs hiring continues in earnest, but we saw how quickly things turned last March (and then back again this March). We also saw “too big to fail” is likely a thing with airlines though, and on top of that, retirements will help mitigate things. So, If SHTF again, risk is lower than I’d normally say an industry devastating event (like more lockdowns/restrictions) would be.
Nobody will truly know the answer until retirement. But, seems like for a 0-3/4/5 year guy at jetblue, maybe longer depending on variables, it could make sense to start over from a career expectation standpoint depending on where you live and appetite for a little short term risk/pay cut.
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