Delta Interview Policy
 

For those in the know... Before the NW/DL merger, DL's policy was that if you interviewed and did not pass the interview portion, you could never interview again. Is this policy upheld in the post merger DL?

No guidance has been given on the redesigned process. Standby for a few more months. At that time, I expect they will outline the new policy etc.

That was what we were briefed during interviews in 2010 when I was hired, which was post-merger.

so does this mean if they did not select you that you were ineligible, or just if you failed a part of the interview? That seems kind of harsh to not allow someone to re-apply.

Wasn't it, if you failed the test you could reapply in 6 months...But if you failed the interview, you could never interview again?

The policy under previous hiring windows was; Fail then interview portion and you could never apply again. Fail day one testing, reapply in six months. Fail the psyche, go to a board, and the decision was final.

That's not right.

You're just flying airplanes not the lunar lander.

What ACL has said is correct. Fail the HR and you are done for life. Fail the testing portion, you can try again in the future. Fail the shrink, it goes to a board review. They look at your application packet and make a determination.

During the interview, you have to convince three people (HR, Active Captain, Retired Captain) that you would be a good fit for Delta. If one person does not like you, your done. People have bad days when interviewing. I think they should give people a chance to re-apply after a year. There was some talk about getting rid of the medical portion. If all you need is a first class medical why waste the money at Concentra to get tested.

That's why there are multiple airlines to apply to ( when hiring ). When you feel strongly about a company policy you don't apply. Personally I find the ups uniforms ridiculous and would apply there as a last resort. I don't expect ups to change their uniforms to suit me.

I hear hiring this fall. Then again, I hear lots of things.

That has to be the dumbest reason not to apply somewhere. Time at home and money are all that matters in this world. I put benefits under money. The only other thing that is important is liking your job.

I am, actually, very glad Delta has a psycho eval. A lot of cool dudes work here, comparing to my other 4 airlines.

Now I only wish NWA had it too ;)

I personally would be embarrassed to walk through the airports of the world with their brown unis. I know quite a few that work there and they do make some good coin and at least the unis are free. I imagine with good coin and qol I could get over the self conciousness of the unis. For the record my buds there don't like the unis either and often switch to civics to jumpseat unless in a time crunch.
Luv

Seriously, you would not apply for one of the best paying jobs in aviation because of the color of there uniform, to each there own I guess.

We did.......

In five years there will only be DeltalaskaBlue, UniConUSAirAmerica, and SouthWest. Then what? :confused:

I heard I was going to be a -400 captain before I turned 40:D

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close they said Q400. :D

Interview/Bad Day
 

Actually, the interview is just like any other job interview at most companies. You don't pass the interview (and I'm talking upper management) you aren't getting a second chance. If you prepared and don't get through then you weren't what Delta was looking for and if you had a "bad day" then you just weren't ready. You just couldn't afford to have a bad day and I don't think most of the guys that got through it are sorry we had (and may still have) a no reapply policy for the interview portion. Especially since everything else you did was to get to interview. I loved the fact that after the interview you left knowing you had a job offer.

Do you mind explaining what you are insinuating?

That is completely laughable, about the UPS uniforms. Are you OCD? You take this airline stuff WAYYYYYYYYYY too seriously. You must be joking; "hmmmm, I'll take lower pay to work for airline X, but my uniform will look soooooo niceee!" One word: wow!

You've obviously never flown the -88.

BTW, go back to flaming on the NK board.

He is insinuating that he just bought a new fishing pole and wants to try it out. :p

People left UPS in droves over the years because of substandard wages and working conditions.... The only reason they are paid more now is because other pilot groups took steps backward over the last decade.

When did UPS ever set a new "top rung" on the airline pilot ladder?

Nice spin......not! Alls that matters is what's happening now. Besides, what's your point? IPA has set a well-compensated package for it's pilots; does any legacy carrier match it CURRENTLY? The past is just that, my friend. Btw, I look good in brown!

Today? No. Next week? No. Next year? Could be.

Remember the "9 million dollar man" article in Kit Darby's publication Airinc (??). Ups was the highest paid (career wise) airline...

I have friends there that tell me they get used and abused. No thanks...

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Look. The only way to fail the HR interview is to be a flaming Douche. The whole point of it is to put a face to a name. As it was explained to me in the interview was that this part of the process was to ensure that the applicant was someone the rest of the pilot group could get along with on a trip. It's no fun spending 6-8 hours a day with someone you want to punch in the back of the head going down the jetway. Of course, some still make it through as evidenced by the rouges galley posting here.:rolleyes:

Or, you didn't go sit in the wooden chair like they told you to.

:D:p That wont be for at least another 10 years!

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First off, I HAVEN'T interviewed at DAL.......

That seems a little bit harsh. Everyone can have a bad day, EVERYONE. I know more than one guy that got the TBNT and wasn't a "flaming douche" as you say. Just wasn't his/her day, etc. Especially during the last round of hiring in 2010.

Besides, what were the hired/not hired numbers? Somewhere around 50-60% of those that make it through all phases get hired IIRC? I'm sure ACL or 80kts can clarify. If that's true on the numbers, I have a hard time believing that the other 40-50% that didn't get hired were a "flaming douche" as you put it. Again, EVERYONE can have a bad day.

Funny, someone can get turned down by DAL and get hired by FedEx, Southwest, etc. You'd have a hard time trying to convince someone in this environment FedEx or Southwest somehow hired a "lesser" pilot than the "flaming douche" that DAL didn't hire.

Conversely, a pilot could get turned down by Southwest or FedEx yet hired by DAL. Again, it'd be hard to convince someone that FedEx/Southwest turned down the "flaming douche", yet DAL hired said "flaming douche".

No one knows what each airline looks for, but you can start to figure it out by looking at your qualities that are similar to the rest of the pilots you fly with. That said, some people are not good fits at one airline that are a great fit at another.

As for DAL's policy of "One Strike and your out," Its their policy. It makes finding candidates harder over a longer period of time, but again its their choice.

You are correct that on average only 50% or so make it through the process. It was an expectation, but not a mandate. I was told that when DAL calls you, they have very intention on hiring you. The interview, combined with the mini personality assessment gives them a good picture of a person. Thus far, they seem pleased with the process, but I have heard that there may be some changes. Until we officially starting hiring an an interview, or re-interview policy is reiterated or re-established, no one knows what they will do.

If you want to project something, one of the former hiring managers has once again been given that position, and has been in the position again for some time. He will apparently be running the process again fwiw.

What's funny about this post is while on other threads, you're always complaining about your job! Talk about spin! :D

I've heard the same thing...

Several years ago I flew a few trips with a really top-shelf guy. He had done pilot interviews at both Western and Delta. Over several beers we talked about the interview process and what he was looking for.

Basically when interviewing someone he was trying to get a feel for what they'd be like to fly a four day trip with, or work through a complex abnormal procedure with. It really was that simple.

I have said this before, but IMHO Delta has done an exceptionally fine job of recruiting and hiring pilots. The vast majority (over 99%) are great to fly with, and great to grab a beer or two with.

You can't really ascribe a value to it, but it makes the job more enjoyable and I'm thankful for Delta's hiring process.

I agree. I really enjoy my co-workers and work is a joy 99% of the time. I would say the other 1% are different, but I have not had one person I would not fly with again. That is a testament to their interview process.

The process as I see it comes down to one thing; Communication or CRM. You have it, or you don't.

+1. Agree also - even the guys I wouldn't be best friends with are easy to get along with and fly with - to keep it down to 1% or less is great.

Obviously I have not had an interview yet but at first I was amazed at how strict it is and how you are a one and done if you fail the hr portion. It seems though that the written portions you can study for, the hr part is more them seeing what kind of person you are. If you go in there prepared and act like yourself, they will probably hire you but if you are yourself and they say no thanks, then They are probably not the right airline for you anyways. Even if you were invited back in 6 months on the hr portion, its not like your answers should be any different if you were being truthful. Having said that i bet its a very stressful day and I hope to be a part of it soon.

It's stressful for you, but they try to minimize it as much as possible.

That's why you shouldn't be set on just one company -- apply to lots of places, and if you get lots of job offers, then it's an added bonus. We all have good & bad days. Professional interview prep helps in my opinion.

Pinnacle FO,

If you get the call - the DAL wants to hire you. Most people pass the HR interview. From what I heard most guys get tripped up on the testing or the Shrink/Psych portion but even taking all this into consideration your chances are pretty good at getting hired if you get the call.

Different Airlines do things differently. Back in the late 90s it was not uncommon for UAL to have 10-12 guys interview and maybe two would continue beyond the interview portion - at DAL it is just the opposite - most pass the HR interview.

Scoop

Last I heard from Delta about 6 months ago, if you didn't get hired in ANY phase on or during the HR/Panel interview, you were permanently ineligible to reapply.

Lame I know.