Oscar,

C9 is correct. You should retract your words.

Rolf

Oh for God's sake, "The List" again? Have you seen this list? I fly with these guys daily and I sure can't find a copy and I have asked, no one I have spoken to has heard of it. But of course I'm sure you are better informed than I am. Trust me, no one needs a list to decide if you are a tool or not.

If you want to come over and try to spoil everything with poison that will most definitely be your prerogative. Unfortunately, it will only make you and those forced to be around you miserable. If that is your goal in life, more power to ya and have fun with that!

Maybe, just maybe, a better approach would be the one that you will get from the vast majority of all SWA employees. Make no assumptions about you because of your FORMER employer but judge you on the persona you present to them.

I completely get it that you feel slighted, but what you choose to do with that anger is completely up to you as opposed to the acquisition scenario that you had no control over. If you want to be bitter and spread that to everyone you interact with that is your choice and no one else. I personally think that will make your life miserable, but no one can make that choice but you.

Hey Shoelu,

After Steve Chase's recent message regarding the departure of the 717s, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the merger/acquisition/ISL/SLI was orchestrated to take ALL of our Cptn seats so that your guys can upgrade.

I really could care less about what your wrote above. It's all just words. You, your company's, and your union's actions speak much louder than any of your collective words.

Here let me translate................whatever, dude.

I think that my pilot group and all the other pilot groups that are on the outside looking in would have a little more respect for you all if you'd just admit that you set out to **** us from the get go. Come on man, "OWN IT"!

My lower lip is all a quiver from that lashing. :rolleyes:

I don't care what the median turbine PIC for Airtran FO's is, was, or will be. It is irrelevant. You are obviously reading much, much more into my posts that what I am meaning to communicate on this Delta pilots forum.

Like I have only said time and time and time again on these forums. Truly, welcome to Southwest. We are glad to have the opportunity to work with everybody at AirTran who wants to contribute something positive to the work we all do everyday. I am sorry for you if don't like the way things are working out. Personally, I WAS not happy about many things as well. But guess what? They are in the past, I had no control over them, and I have moved on, long, long ago.

Every single Airtran pilot I have personally met and talked with in the last 14 months or so has been a truly nice, gracious person. I look forward to working with each and every one of them.

It is not my job, nor any other Southwest employees job to bring the chips and dip the the non-stop, constant, nauseating pity party that pilots like QuackMaster and others are throwing here every single day. I suppose I can add you to that group as well.

Like Shoelu just said, your own personal misery index is 110% within your control. Blame me, blame Gary Kelly, blame Oscar, blame Shoelu, blame everybody else . . . . . . that is your choice - heaven forbid you look inside and take control of your own life.

That's the point. We are passed the T/A portion of this deal. It is now just an agreement. There is nothing you or I can do or say to change that. It is actually now, Us, Our Company, Our Union whether you like it or not. You can hold your breath and stomp your feet all you want but it won't change anything. The only way to disassociate yourself from the new reality is to remove yourself from the new existence. That is the only choice you have left if it is so troubling to be associated with those for which you have so much disdain.

I was listening. I was listening to one holier-than-thou employee bash a segment his peers because someone was late to work. I know Southwest needs folks there on time; every business does. I fairly sure it isn't part of Southwest's core values to be bashing one employee group because of one person's actions. More so, I think an apology is needed to the AT guys for your arrogant comments.

Three minutes late??? Seriously? Unless the FO showed a D+3. If an IOE instructor can't get the jet out within the allotted time with the FO missing, that IOE instructor needs some training.

Yes!:eek:

Since I have a life outside of APC I am now back to answer some posts directed towards me.

Since you posted I have asked numerous pilots and check airmen and the answer is none have heard of a new hire being late to IOE. Since the AT guy was not a new hire I guess it is okay? I in no way was implying that ALL AT guys/gals will be any better/worse than a new hire off the street. Perhaps you guys need to look at my post as simply a statement of fact.

BTW, after hearing the check airmen mention he was flying with an AT guy on his IOE I wasn't frothing at the mouth do do anything. I actually wanted to say welcome aboard and hello to him when he arrived. Since he was still at the hotel at check in I didn't get the chance. I have been and still will be a person who treats my fellow employee fairly and I would expect the same in return. I also believe I have been fair to the AT folks (here on APC) and want the best for each as they transition, including pointing out that staying off the skyline might be a goal.

The Oscar

KC,

Wow, I point out a fact and recommend that other AT folks don't follow the example of their (now our) fellow employee and I am an arrogant. Really? Bashing? Again, really? If someone was offended by my words I apologize. I do want the transition to go well and as I previously posted I brought this up so other IOE folks don't make the same mistake. :rolleyes:

As far as the ability to get the plane out goes, it is probably a testament to the check airmen's abilities that it was only 3 minutes late. Making other employees generate reports and do your job is not desirable. Plain and simple fact.

The (arrogant) Oscar