What is unsettling is the ability for the company to assign the 7th SC without our consent. I have no beef if guys want to sell their 15th SC of the month to make extra cash, but we can't be held liable to an extra SC which we got off from previous LOA. I just cant fathom what kind of stellar "package" we got in return in selling our already not so "stellar" reserve rules.

I think the 7th SC is only in months with a high ALV.

There should be a way to sell more SCs, like AA but not make them mandatory.

Great so in super busy months you'll at least fly all 18 days or be on shortcall.... 6 is sufficient.

That is true. It also doesn't take effect until the rest rules get rid of 24 hour short calls. So, for international guys, you get a max of 98 hours of short call vs the current 144 max. This assumes that we go with the 14 hour max short call in the new rest rules.

True, but if you fly all 18 like you said, you'd have to get paid at least 94.5 hours! I am a career reserve guy and hate working that many days but I can live with 95 hours of pay.

I haven't really gotten to this section yet, but if I were the company I would be looking for a way to mitigate the mass hiring necessary to cover retirements by getting the work rules to require fewer pilots. Therein as we lose pilots we have to hire fewer pilots in return. We don't have to furlough, we just shrink. 12,000 down to 9,000. Get more out of what's there.

That's what I'd do if I were them... and hope we didn't allow it or as a group don't allow it if it did happen.

The 95 hours of pay doesn't mean anything if you can't enjoy it. As a commuter, if you work all 18 days, how many hours are you actually at home? Maybe this doesn't apply to you. I routinely broke 90 hours pay on reserve at my last airline and I hated life. And I wasn't a commuter. The 7th short call is in the months when the reserve guarantee is 75-80, but it's not optional. Also, why did we change section 23 S.1.d? We now have to check our schedule after training?

I've involuntarily done this numerous times, deadhead only days, reserve paying less than block and the non-paid shortcalls will keep you well under 95 hours pay. Been there, lived it, no fun. Careful what you wish for.

In all the discussion so far I haven't seen anyone address what happens to the routes and the passengers being flown on the 50 seat RJs as they are retired. Many people have been said 70 - 76 seat airplanes cost mainline jobs, and we're allowing more of them on property, so we're giving away jobs. But the 50 seaters are going away, and those passengers have to be flown as well. Without seeing the math (and I think you probably have to show the math to make a compelling point either way beyond being fearful of what all this COULD cause or COULD mean), the number of people being moved is still the same. The 50 seater passengers aren't disappearing into a vacuum. The critiques make no mention of how those passengers will be redistributed in the system with a new balance of aircraft. If I remember I think someone posted the number of total seats in the RJ system prior to and after this TA would take affect, and they were in the same ballpark. Not taking excpetion to anyone's perspective, but I was wondering if anyone can address how the same number of seats would eat into mainline jobs, especially with a contract ratio, which I don't believe we currently have? Just trying to get smart and look at this from all the angles, I've not seen this addressed quite yet... or if it was I missed it between 17 threads

Good points. I don't want the 7th short call and have seen the other method of being utilized 18 days and not getting the 94.5 hours because they DH'd me, or SC'd me. This could be tightened up on the next TA (the one after we send this one back).