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johnso29 06-06-2012 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1206798)
I think I added an additional zero (3000 versus 300) and there went my math. I hope I didn't come off as knowing everything, because I obviously don't. None the less, the reduction in the pilot force that I thought I saw seems to be at odds with this shortage talk. Additionally Delta seems to reducing its regional pilot staffing. Gosh, I *really* hope, for all our sakes, Delta starts hiring soon, and the 717s are growth, not net neutral to the Delta fleet.

My personal opinion is that the economy is too weak, and until very recently, oil too high for a pilot shortage/slow down. I'd love for the supply/demand equation work out in favor of pilots....still holding my breath for that :)

Thanks all for your responses, regards to everybody.

Nah, you didn't come off that way. I didn't want you to think I was accusing you of fabricating a number. That's why I said "or repeating" because for all I know you read it or heard it. :)

I really don't know if the Delta TA will get shot down. History isn't on the NO voters side. The TA passing isn't the end of the world IMO. I just don't think I personally can support it with a YES vote. The TA seems to have great potential, but I'm not sure if the language is air tight.

atpcliff 06-07-2012 11:56 AM

If the salary for an small Airbus captain goes from $12K/month, to $20K/month in three years, what does that mean?

Shortage, or excess?

cliff
GRB

gloopy 06-07-2012 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 1207275)
If the salary for an small Airbus captain goes from $12K/month, to $20K/month in three years, what does that mean?

Shortage, or excess?

cliff
GRB

Or bubble?

FlightCheck 06-07-2012 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1206424)
***??

So the recession in the 70s was a bull market??

Yes but no. The 1970's certainly had a recession, but no more so than the lowest price of the Dow Jones Industrial Average yesterday can be labeled an 'intraday recession.' It depends on what 'fractal' or time period you are looking at. As for the last 100 years, we have been in a raging bull market, the greatest in history.

satpak77 06-07-2012 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by FlightCheck (Post 1207714)
Yes but no. The 1970's certainly had a recession, but no more so than the lowest price of the Dow Jones Industrial Average yesterday can be labeled an 'intraday recession.' It depends on what 'fractal' or time period you are looking at. As for the last 100 years, we have been in a raging bull market, the greatest in history.

:confused::confused::confused:

So the crash of 1929, 1987, 2000, and 2007, all within the last 100 years, make this a "raging bull market"

bro keep your flying job ok. I discourage 1) Finance and 2) English Teacher

tuning that VOR OBS and tracking a radial, yes, fine

Senior Skipper 06-07-2012 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 1207275)
If the salary for an small Airbus captain goes from $12K/month, to $20K/month in three years, what does that mean?

Shortage, or excess?

cliff
GRB

It means I have to ask the question "where do I send my CV?"

dl773 06-09-2012 05:10 PM

Brazilian aviation is booming in a big way, and has a for several years. While times are good, and airlines are hiring, there is no shortage of pilots. Lot's of them apply and only a few actually get the jobs.

ThreeGreens 06-10-2012 07:44 PM

No pilot shortage here. Move along.

Fat Jesus 06-10-2012 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1207719)
:confused::confused::confused:

So the crash of 1929, 1987, 2000, and 2007, all within the last 100 years, make this a "raging bull market"

bro keep your flying job ok. I discourage 1) Finance and 2) English Teacher

tuning that VOR OBS and tracking a radial, yes, fine

Those were corrections. Look at the value of a dollar invested in 1912 to today, you'll find he's correct.

757golf 06-11-2012 04:04 PM

Right after pigs start flying and the temperature in Hell drops to -40

At -40 that's a grounding limitation for most airplanes so no (know) one will be flying.


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