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Great post!
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this is very cool thank you for posting
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Very nicely done.
How about SW? Retirement data - http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...ated-list.html Slightly out of date but better than nothing(thread started in 2009) |
His website has FedEx and Virgin America data (hyperlinks on the site)-
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PilotAnalyst, great job on putting together a system that allows us to see the future projections. By posting on this forum, I hope you are able to obtain further data from informed members that will allow you to further refine your numbers. This is a great starting point and I hope you continue to update this information for the future.
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optumism?
Great post. Am I missing something though? "we will see only 10% a year from the Regional's go to the majors". This should be horrible news. One in ten will make it through the regionals.
Lets do the math: Five years instructing to get to a regional (1500 hour rule) then 6 to 8 years minimum to get out to be rewarded by another 9 years in the right seat at a legacy to finally earn as much as a grocery store manager? :confused: A lot of things have to go right over decades of time and effort to make this dream work out. There is no pilot shortage. The legacy airlines need to hire thousands upon thousands per year to make a dent in the stockpile. A few hundred here and there does little to help the bulk of us. Aviation has become a war of attrition. In the end it will be the guy who sells off everything in his personal life who will get the job. Have a girlfriend or a dog you are fond of and you are out. I assume that this is supposed to be good news? The data at the optimistic side of things? Skyhigh |
Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot
(Post 1200975)
Where did you get your information, what are your sources and how do we know your numbers are real? Anybody can put anything on the internet these days:eek:
PtP |
Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot
(Post 1200975)
Where did you get your information, what are your sources and how do we know your numbers are real? Anybody can put anything on the internet these days:eek:
PtP I like how you said "these days" too. As if there was a time when only factual, edited material was on the internet. |
PilotAnalyst, I understand that you predict the total pilots required for an airline by adding the pilots required for new aircraft and the manditory retirements together. That makes sense.
Why is it that, in the case of Alaska Airlines, the two don't add up? For example, in 2013 you predict: 132 pilots needed for new aircraft, 19 manditory retirements, but only predict 92 total new pilots? Shouldn't the number 151? What am I missing here? OK, looking again, I see that you made an error on the table but the end result is correct. The "New pilots required for Fleet" numbers are wrong in every column. That's the problem. I expect that is easy to correct. Thanks for the efforts though. Interesting stuff. |
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
(Post 1201629)
Great post. Am I missing something though? "we will see only 10% a year from the Regional's go to the majors". This should be horrible news. One in ten will make it through the regionals.
Lets do the math: Five years instructing to get to a regional (1500 hour rule) then 6 to 8 years minimum to get out to be rewarded by another 9 years in the right seat at a legacy to finally earn as much as a grocery store manager? :confused: A lot of things have to go right over decades of time and effort to make this dream work out. There is no pilot shortage. The legacy airlines need to hire thousands upon thousands per year to make a dent in the stockpile. A few hundred here and there does little to help the bulk of us. Aviation has become a war of attrition. In the end it will be the guy who sells off everything in his personal life who will get the job. Have a girlfriend or a dog you are fond of and you are out. I assume that this is supposed to be good news? The data at the optimistic side of things? Skyhigh 10% PER YEAR. Five yrs to get to 1500hrs? Three yrs if you're hustling. |
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