TA 2012 Contract Highlights
06-18-2012 | 01:17 PM
#91
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If you want to vote NO because you don't want to give up more RJs then fine, but quit grasping at straws.
06-18-2012 | 01:50 PM
#92
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It doesn't and alfaromeo knows it. The TA does not mandate the purchase, lease or acquisition of even one 717 much less 88 of them. Alfa is an unelected MEC bureaucrat that continually lies to us even though it's easily proven that he's lying. He just doesn't care. He's so convinced his job as an MEC admin is secure, he is simply not concerned about lying.
Carl
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06-18-2012 | 01:54 PM
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What happens when they want to put 82 seats in the 76 seater? or even worst 90 seats? What happens after they get the 717s and they decide to park old 757, A320s, 747s etc?
Please think about the long term. If you vote this TA down, you are still going to get paid. You are still going to pick up GS. You are still able to make that 19% up.
After taxes, how much is that 19% anyway? Is it worth the potential for Scope degradation?
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06-18-2012 | 02:39 PM
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Finis,
What happens when they want to put 82 seats in the 76 seater? or even worst 90 seats? What happens after they get the 717s and they decide to park old 757, A320s, 747s etc?
Please think about the long term. If you vote this TA down, you are still going to get paid. You are still going to pick up GS. You are still able to make that 19% up.
After taxes, how much is that 19% anyway? Is it worth the potential for Scope degradation?
One Group,
TEN
What happens when they want to put 82 seats in the 76 seater? or even worst 90 seats? What happens after they get the 717s and they decide to park old 757, A320s, 747s etc?
Please think about the long term. If you vote this TA down, you are still going to get paid. You are still going to pick up GS. You are still able to make that 19% up.
After taxes, how much is that 19% anyway? Is it worth the potential for Scope degradation?
One Group,
TEN
06-18-2012 | 03:31 PM
#95
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From: metal tube operator
Again long term I think this TA is an improvement in scope, we can agree to disagree on that. You can play the what if game from both sides, we have a contract that does not allow anymore than 76 seaters, period ! What if Europe tanks, what if we get hit by a meteorite then you will never make up the lost income from this TA. Let's deal with current facts. You don't like the section 1 of this TA, I got it, no what if's.
06-18-2012 | 04:45 PM
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First of all, DALPA should not use any mention of caps on DCI, especially in BOLD font in 2015, presumably, because they fail that promise. Second of all, how are we "capping" 76 seaters? Maybe i need to reread the definition of the word, but last i checked, there will be 70 NEW LARGE GAUGE RJ not flown by DL pilots. They will be entered into looooong term lease, probably much longer terms than 717. So how does it put us at an advantage in the long term? Do you think the company isnt gonna borrow from the playbook and ask us for scope trade for a few shiny nickels?
Long term leases are what got DAL in trouble with RJ's in the first place!
06-18-2012 | 06:03 PM
#98
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Just a minor annoyance if management has to keep 50 seat RJs - can't claim that the entire system is equipped with Economy Comfort. Won't stop them from making the claim about mainline.
06-18-2012 | 06:29 PM
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It doesn't and alfaromeo knows it. The TA does not mandate the purchase, lease or acquisition of even one 717 much less 88 of them. Alfa is an unelected MEC bureaucrat that continually lies to us even though it's easily proven that he's lying. He just doesn't care. He's so convinced his job as an MEC admin is secure, he is simply not concerned about lying.
Carl
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