Response to Captain Tucker
06-28-2012 | 04:07 AM
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I certainly did not try to make this a N/S thing and I'm sorry it came off that way.
What I referred to was individuals and I posed questions about possible common interests between individuals.
I never said "North pilots ____." or "South pilots ____."
But I think it's disingenuous to say TT didn't want to support the DPA, he just wanted to put out his letter.
I view that position along the lines of saying "Hey I really don't want a fire to start in here. Let's make sure there's no fires, OK? I really would hate to have a fire." ...all the while pouring gas on the living room carpet.
What I referred to was individuals and I posed questions about possible common interests between individuals.
I never said "North pilots ____." or "South pilots ____."
But I think it's disingenuous to say TT didn't want to support the DPA, he just wanted to put out his letter.
I view that position along the lines of saying "Hey I really don't want a fire to start in here. Let's make sure there's no fires, OK? I really would hate to have a fire." ...all the while pouring gas on the living room carpet.
06-28-2012 | 09:57 AM
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06-28-2012 | 10:05 AM
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From: A big one that looks like a little one
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
What was that alfa was saying about lying?
Could be wrong though. That 4% bump in ALV could save them the other $300 mil.
06-28-2012 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The TA itself is only worth 450 million.
Mine was 10,500 active pilots making $75,000 more than they would otherwise over a 3 year agreement minus $473 million.
Now show my error.
06-28-2012 | 02:28 PM
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You mean when we told you the exact savings and Delta then confirms that number? What the hell are you talking about?
From the FAQ's:
As it pertains to the pilot group, this is anything but a cost neutral contract. In fact, the increased value over the life of the contract will be on the order of approximately one billion dollars.
If the agreement is ratified, Delta will save approximately $184 million in above normal run rate CRJ-200 engine maintenance costs. In addition, Delta will save approximately $289 million in DCI contract and CRJ-200 ownership costs. This represents a total net savings of $473 million over the life of the agreement. These are one time savings that don’t continue into the future unlike the increases in pilot costs in this TA, which continue to accrue.
The acquisition costs of the B-717 and 76-seat jets are not public, but at current market prices can be estimated at approximately $2 billion. The savings generated by management not having to pay for the 50-seat RJ flying that they don’t want is more than offset by the acquisition costs of the B-717 and the 76-seat jets.
From the FAQ's:
As it pertains to the pilot group, this is anything but a cost neutral contract. In fact, the increased value over the life of the contract will be on the order of approximately one billion dollars.
If the agreement is ratified, Delta will save approximately $184 million in above normal run rate CRJ-200 engine maintenance costs. In addition, Delta will save approximately $289 million in DCI contract and CRJ-200 ownership costs. This represents a total net savings of $473 million over the life of the agreement. These are one time savings that don’t continue into the future unlike the increases in pilot costs in this TA, which continue to accrue.
The acquisition costs of the B-717 and 76-seat jets are not public, but at current market prices can be estimated at approximately $2 billion. The savings generated by management not having to pay for the 50-seat RJ flying that they don’t want is more than offset by the acquisition costs of the B-717 and the 76-seat jets.
06-28-2012 | 02:29 PM
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