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Old 07-16-2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by shiftwork
"Team member" not crew, not Capt... just a team member. Complete erosion of Captains authority: that's how I see it.
Only if the captain lets it get that far. I haven't had any problems getting my way.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 04:18 PM
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Didn't I see these uniforms before?

Oh yeah, storming into poland.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 04:30 PM
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Say what you will but I think this is the sharpest uniform of all the major airlines.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Say what you will but I think this is the sharpest uniform of all the major airlines.
Who are you.....Stevie Wonder??
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Old 07-16-2012 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew
Who are you.....Stevie Wonder??
No....just a 9 to 5r that likes to follow what's happening at the major airlines. Jaunted and Gadling seem to like them, and it seems like industry experts say it may be the new trend at all the majors.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
No....just a 9 to 5r that likes to follow what's happening at the major airlines. Jaunted and Gadling seem to like them, and it seems like industry experts say it may be the new trend at all the majors.
Ha. Good one. I think it'll be a cold day in hell before you see a Delta or UniCal guy wearing that stuff.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by waterboy
I don't get why there is 5 pages of bashing about the new uniform. There are definitely uglier ones out there. UPS and ABX (they are the ones with the gray pants and black/red/silver epaulets, right?) come to mind.

Everyone says the uniform lacks professionals, yet everyone one here is calling the uniform gay and other homophobic references. pretty much anything short of calling someone who wears it a F@ggot. I think professionalism is more based on how you wear the uniform, than the uniform itself. Iron your shirt, wear clean, creased pants, shine your shoes once in a while and you'll look professional, however a good number of pilots can't even accomplish that as you look around America's airports. Have a Korean Airlines or Emirates in-flight crew put on a current Delta or United's FA uniform, and they will make it look 10 times better. Because its about HOW you wear it.
Absolutely. Iron you're gay shirt before you go to work.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyone
All joking aside......What is important in the pilot uniform, as stated, is not only safety and security, but also recognition. When the gray evening rejected takeoff and evacuation happens at JFK, the rescue/fire personnel will need to identify the captain. Think of Sully in the Hudson. He was immediately recognizable by not only the pax but also the rescue personnel. Security....who's the Captain? Eventually there may be some international destinations. Those in charge are looking for someone that they traditionally see that has the look of a "captain". That is one reason most international carriers still wear the hat. Many issues involved with regard to outside agencies.

Went through this issue at EOS Airlines. Something somewhat similar. Long story short....we had a pilot at a snowbound airport mistaken for the Greyhound (or whatever) bus driver that was going to take the pax to JFK. Took a while to unravel, that he was NOT in fact the "savior" of the stranded pax.

It's not about ego, or I wanna look like a "real" pilot. It's about the expectations of pax, and outside agencies having a visual cue about who is "da boss". Obviously, decisions made by people that have ZERO clue about operational issues.
The same way you'll know a pilot at a bar: he'll tell you first. No worries.


Seriously? Look for the guy that has 4-stripes. Hasn't failed yet. You don't need a white shirt, a black tie, and black pants to find the Captain.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fins Up
Absolutely. Iron you're gay shirt before you go to work.
Jeez Fin, 6 posts on 2 different boards (FI & APC) about our new uniforms. Me thinks you doth protest too much!
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Old 07-16-2012 | 09:20 PM
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If I'm ever evacuating an airplane, I always make sure to grab my jacket that identifies me with the stripes on my sleeve, and my hat! I mean, it's on the ditching checklist, after pushing the ditching button!
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