JetBlue 52M 2nd Quarter Profit
08-05-2012 | 04:39 PM
#101
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08-05-2012 | 05:45 PM
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What might those be? You don't have a bargaining agent or a means to negotiate!
I believe in straight talk when it comes to business. Let's put the whole union/ non-union debate aside. Jetblue Pilots are compensated below average all across the board. Why do you think that is?
Are you naive enough to think your job is safer than that of your peers at DAL/SWA/AK/UPS/FEX because you are non-union and compensated below average?
Let me tell you something; It is NOT! Don't take my word for it. Go ask any labor economist.
JJ
08-05-2012 | 05:59 PM
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Your compensation level isn't a significant factor in the viability of your Airline.
The Airlines have been affected by significant external variables in recent years. This has caused huge losses to the Legacies. Jetblue hasn't been subject to quite the same variables but, nevertheless, has posted significant losses in the past. This was NOT due to labor costs!
T
08-05-2012 | 06:08 PM
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Already got it:S
Air Canada just went to arbitration with their pilots union, and won. How's about this for a contract:
In addition to lowered salaries (4th year FO on ANY aircraft makes just $67K/yr...which is not enough to live on in Canada when over half of that is taxed and the cost of living is very high), but scope is completely wiped out.
The new contract provides Air Canada with the ability to get rid of 60 A320s and 60 Embraer 190s. The purpose of this is so they can send the aircraft to their new OFFSHORE BASED (yes thats right) Low Cost Carrier. You fellas think the scope erosion on the Delta TA was bad?...
08-05-2012 | 06:09 PM
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Your compensation level isn't a significant factor in the viability of your Airline.
The Airlines have been affected by significant external variables in recent years. This has caused huge losses to the Legacies. Jetblue hasn't been subject to quite the same variables but, nevertheless, has posted significant losses in the past. This was NOT due to labor costs!
T
The Airlines have been affected by significant external variables in recent years. This has caused huge losses to the Legacies. Jetblue hasn't been subject to quite the same variables but, nevertheless, has posted significant losses in the past. This was NOT due to labor costs!
T
08-05-2012 | 06:20 PM
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Already got it:S
Air Canada just went to arbitration with their pilots union, and won. How's about this for a contract:
In addition to lowered salaries (4th year FO on ANY aircraft makes just $67K/yr...which is not enough to live on in Canada when over half of that is taxed and the cost of living is very high), but scope is completely wiped out.
The new contract provides Air Canada with the ability to get rid of 60 A320s and 60 Embraer 190s. The purpose of this is so they can send the aircraft to their new OFFSHORE BASED (yes thats right) Low Cost Carrier. You fellas think the scope erosion on the Delta TA was bad?...
Air Canada just went to arbitration with their pilots union, and won. How's about this for a contract:
In addition to lowered salaries (4th year FO on ANY aircraft makes just $67K/yr...which is not enough to live on in Canada when over half of that is taxed and the cost of living is very high), but scope is completely wiped out.
The new contract provides Air Canada with the ability to get rid of 60 A320s and 60 Embraer 190s. The purpose of this is so they can send the aircraft to their new OFFSHORE BASED (yes thats right) Low Cost Carrier. You fellas think the scope erosion on the Delta TA was bad?...
08-05-2012 | 06:28 PM
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This is the beginning of the "regional jet" industry in Canada, which has never existed.
08-06-2012 | 06:42 AM
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It's funny how many of you talk so venomously to those that don't agree with a union yet hide behind your avatars?! I guess you will never be happy? JetBlue is a great place to work period. A union would not help this to be a great place. Plenty of examples out there in previous posts to prove this. Things continue to get better here and there is proof of that........
If you don't understand the past, you are allowing yourself to be puppet.
08-06-2012 | 02:14 PM
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Sadly, I know many people who actually believe the motivational letters and how the company will look after them. Just look at the facts of the compensation, no scope and pea's that aren't worth the paper they are written on. Do people realize that if a merger happened they could just let the pea's expire and the company has no obligation to extend them for another 5 years?
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