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Old 08-01-2012, 10:06 AM
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Aloha,

I’m a fellow ALPA pilot flying a 737 for a Canadian airline.

Hawaiian jumpseat policy states from the ALPA website:

Hawaiian has an "open skies" walk-up jumpseat policy. The jumpseat is available to pilots from all FAR Part 121 operators on a first-come, first-served basis, with the captain’s approval.

In Canada, FAR 121 ops are equivalent to our CARS 705. I’m curious if a Hawaiian Captain could extend this wonderful privilege to a Canadian airline pilot?

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Are you on CASS? No CASS, no go.
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Are you on CASS? No CASS, no go.
Lack of CASS doesn't prevent sitting in the cabin.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:53 PM
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Unfortunately, we do not have CASS or an equivalent in Canada. However Hawaiian is one of the few airlines that accept Non-CASS jumpseaters via a cabin seat.
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If you are wondering if you can sit in the cockpit without being in CASS, the answer is no. The TSA would have a field day with that one. A captain would undoubtedly lose their job over that one.
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Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky View Post
If you are wondering if you can sit in the cockpit without being in CASS, the answer is no. The TSA would have a field day with that one. A captain would undoubtedly lose their job over that one.
That is not what he is asking. We all know you have to be CASS to sit in jumpseat. He is wondering if he can offline and sit in the back.
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Originally Posted by lighthouse View Post
Unfortunately, we do not have CASS or an equivalent in Canada. However Hawaiian is one of the few airlines that accept Non-CASS jumpseaters via a cabin seat.
I believe that Virgin America is another airline that will carry non-CASS pilots, if there is a seat available in the back.

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To help answer your question it'll boil down to whether you have a reciprocal agreement with Hawaiian.

I have JS to Canada on both Jazz and Air Canada a few years back with no problem. Even got first class both ways (Thanks guys!!).

You cannot sit up front international unless it's on your own airline as I understand it, but if you have a reciprocal agreement you can request a seat in the back on a first-come first-served basis.

Most large Canadian operators have agreements with US based carriers.

Hope this helps!!
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I believe that Virgin America is another airline that will carry non-CASS pilots, if there is a seat available in the back.

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Yes. We've taken plenty of CX guys in the back.
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And thank you very much. We do our part to help VX crews get a better seat on our 14hr flights.
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