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Old 09-23-2012 | 03:33 PM
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Saw this story and didn't see anything posted on it yet. I hear the owner is looking into legal action.............against who I don't know.

Service dog forced under seat by airline dies | ksl.com

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Old 09-23-2012 | 03:40 PM
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While the death of a pet is always a terrible thing, flying has inherent risks and flying with a pet has rules. The rules for flying with a pet are agreed upon when you pay the fee to bring you pet aboard the flight. She knew her dog would have to be A: in a carrier and B: placed under the seat in the row in front of her.

It wasnt the airline that killed her dog, it was a combination of unfortunate circumstances that did it. As always...this will be a PR mess.
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Old 09-23-2012 | 04:10 PM
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Was the dog a service animal? If it was, aren't there different rules that apply, versus someone just bringing the dog on the airplane.

You're right, though. It will be a PR nightmare. I can see it now. JetBlue hates Utah. First the family of 4 that they stranded for days without food or money or a roof over their head and now this.
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Old 09-23-2012 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
Was the dog a service animal? If it was, aren't there different rules that apply, versus someone just bringing the dog on the airplane.

You're right, though. It will be a PR nightmare. I can see it now. JetBlue hates Utah. First the family of 4 that they stranded for days without food or money or a roof over their head and now this.
Good question. It doesnt look like it was a service animal ie. seeing eye dog etc. It does sound like it could have been a "emotional support animal".

It all depends on how the pet traveled I suppose as each airline has different rules for the kind of pet traveling. If the ticket was bought as simply traveling with a pet, normal rules would apply and it would go under the seat in a carrier. If the pet was booked as an emotional support animal, paperwork would have been presented and it would have to be coded differently on the manifest. A pet that size would be treated like a lap child and could have sat on the owners lap.

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Old 09-23-2012 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
Good question. It doesnt look like it was a service animal ie. seeing eye dog etc. It does sound like it could have been a "emotional support animal".

It all depends on how the pet traveled I suppose as each airline has different rules for the kind of pet traveling. If the ticket was bought as simply traveling with a pet, normal rules would apply and it would go under the seat in a carrier. If the pet was booked as an emotional support animal, paperwork would have been presented and it would have to be coded differently on the manifest. A pet that size would be treated like a lap child and could have sat on the owners lap.

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If it was as service animal or emotional support animal I wouldn't think she would even have a pet carrier with her in the cabin.

Every service animal I have seen has been outside of a carrier and most have some markings (blue bib) that says something to the effect it is a service animal.

Also, the photo captions say the animal died of dehydration on the flight. Which I find it hard to believe a properly taken care of pet would die of dehydration in 2 hours (The dog didn't even get airborne on the JetBlue flight either).
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Old 09-23-2012 | 05:52 PM
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I would never let my pet travel on DELTA thats for sure, jesus xmas!!! 19 compared to about 3-5 on ever other airline. *** Delta??

She wont have a case unless she had an autopsy done on the dog and it did suffocate. Without C.O.D how do we know it was even related to the plane. Dont the PACS blow air all over the place out of the wall?? People put cats in the overhead bin.

I feel awful for this woman, and her family. I love my pets, and I also do not EVER take them on a plane. I tell my friends not to bring pets on planes. However you have to keep in mind the dog might have just died of other causes.
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Old 09-23-2012 | 06:04 PM
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I would never let my pet travel on DELTA thats for sure, jesus xmas!!! 19 compared to about 3-5 on ever other airline. *** Delta??

She wont have a case unless she had an autopsy done on the dog and it did suffocate. Without C.O.D how do we know it was even related to the plane. Dont the PACS blow air all over the place out of the wall?? People put cats in the overhead bin.

I feel awful for this woman, and her family. I love my pets, and I also do not EVER take them on a plane. I tell my friends not to bring pets on planes. However you have to keep in mind the dog might have just died of other causes.
stupid pug.
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Old 09-23-2012 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
...The rules for flying with a pet are agreed upon when you pay the fee to bring you pet aboard the flight...
The Comair part of Delta will not even accept pugs or other short-nosed pets as cargo. Wanna know why? They suffocate. It's in their DNA.
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Old 09-23-2012 | 07:00 PM
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I'm not sure how this could even remotely be the airline's fault. How can a little dog like that suffocate just because it was kept under a seat? It's the same air under the seat as everywhere else. If the dog suffocated, that's horrible, but that would be the owner's fault for putting the dog in a carrier that wasn't properly ventilated.
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Old 09-23-2012 | 07:40 PM
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I remember the time that some passengers sneaked a dog aboard inside a carry-on bag. They released it during taxi, apparently thinking we wouldn't return to the gate. Bad guess.
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