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GunshipGuy 11-16-2012 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 1293992)
Agree completely. Its amazing that he listens to the most biased media of all, and criticizes NPR.

It doesn't sound like he's listening to MSNBC.

Bozo 11-16-2012 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1293667)
Your screen name fits your intellectual prejudice.

NPR has been found over and over again to be one of the least biased media sources available in the US.

Bahahahaha. By whom? Oh yeah..themselves!

Bozo 11-16-2012 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by GQpilot (Post 1293938)
I listen to and support NPR. I agree, sometimes they lean to far to the left for my taste. I still learn a lot by listening.

G

Like how good those Schweddy Balls are?:)

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TheFly 11-16-2012 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1293456)
Since regionals are an entry level position, pay is inline with the experience level of most regional pilots.

Unbelieveable.

block30 11-16-2012 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1293911)
Yes, their actual reporting is not too biased, but their commentary, interest stories, and the majority of their guest interviews/sought opinions reflect their left of center positions on the issues. It's not prejudice he's basing that opinion on. I listen to NPR quite often and can agree that while the content is normally very good, it is definitely a liberally biased organization.

That's how I see NPR, too, and I am a reader/listener. I also like that NPR seems to have the least childish yelling and interrupting one another. Imagine that!


...But NPR is just *one* of *many* news outlets I use.

lolwut 11-17-2012 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1293869)
Not sure what you are into, but I'll stay clear of the " butthurt" stuff. Not my thing, but who I am I to judge. That being said, I expect the same sensoring/deleting of bb when he trolls, blames, and insults over 40% or YOUR co-workers. You have not been consistant. Btw, I DID NOT intentionally misspell it to get around the filters, just misspelled. Stop ASSuming. On another note, when did this forum turn into the girl scout forum? .

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unit monster 11-17-2012 07:26 PM

Listened to as much as I could - as if Diane Rehm didn't make me sleepy enough, her guests put me out cold.

seattlepilot 11-18-2012 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1293475)
Doesn't stop the fact that Comair and all regionals are entry level jobs.

It doesn't help when "entry level " airlines are providing half the lift in the domestic market. You must be one of those high and mighty major guys that didn't want to fly the 50 seater jets because they belong to the entry level world..

Jimbo33 11-18-2012 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1293552)
No. Our only peer airline is UPS for contract comparison purposes. I sure as heck don't want to be compared to an LCC or even a legacy.

Soon you will be comparing your contract to that of RPV operators.

Doesn't "remotely piloted vehicle" sound much safer than "unmanned aerial vehicle""?

Bucking Bar 11-18-2012 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1293673)
Most regional jets are as big or bigger that "airliners" of the past. They are certainly faster too. IMO, they have passed the point of being entry level positions. They should pay VERY well. It is the deregulated (not really) walmartization of the industry along with competitive factors that have kept regional pay depressed.

ALPA is a bit disingenuous in it's economic arguments when it has a long history of facilitating the outsourcing of jobs to lower paid carriers. This race to the bottom began when ALPA decided it would remove "alter ego" as a threat and instead try to leverage the replacement of our pilots.

That having been stated, Moak did a good job. I look forward to the day when ALPA leadership realizes that real UNITY is a stronger platform that politics, or a radio show. Branded flying should be performed by pilots on that brand's seniority list. By mergers, or extinction, the only way to have one standard is have one list under one contract. That's unity.

sailingfun 11-18-2012 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by seattlepilot (Post 1295148)
It doesn't help when "entry level " airlines are providing half the lift in the domestic market. You must be one of those high and mighty major guys that didn't want to fly the 50 seater jets because they belong to the entry level world..

I am not sure where you get your numbers but Delta outsources as much or more of their lift then anyone and its currently about 13 % of the domestic available lift for the company.

Stud7094 11-18-2012 04:43 PM

That's may not be true. Xjt/ Asa does 870,000 departures a year second only to southwest and if they include mainline Skywest it's 1.4 million which is the most departures in the country by one company.

Stud7094 11-18-2012 04:44 PM

Now that is split between uncial and dal but ual is more than half of that so somewhere in the 650,000 departures.

80ktsClamp 11-18-2012 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1295317)
I am not sure where you get your numbers but Delta outsources as much or more of their lift then anyone and its currently about 13 % of the domestic available lift for the company.

The amount of departures is around 50%.

sailingfun 11-18-2012 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1295452)
The amount of departures is around 50%.

He said lift not departures. Huge difference. Lift in the airline industry is defined by available seats.

Bucking Bar 11-19-2012 09:06 AM

FWIW, Delta has been shifting flying back to mainline. Over Thanksgiving week, Delta departures are down 10.9 percent, but seats are only down 8.8 percent. That makes us the fastest shrinking domestic carrier by departures, but United is shrinking faster by absolute capacity.

It makes sense. If it takes 2 or 3 RJ's to feed a 757, the loss of a mainline jet has a proportionately higher toll on Regional carriers.

sempergumby 11-29-2012 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1293667)
Your screen name fits your intellectual prejudice.

NPR has been found over and over again to be one of the least biased media sources available in the US.


You are right Shiznit. There is no better, non spin news than the Jim Lehrer News Hour!

embplt32 11-29-2012 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by 701EV (Post 1293885)
Andy Pasztor stated that Express Jet hired 800 pilots in the last two years. I dont think ASA/Express Jet has hired 800 pilots in the last five years maybe even longer.

Andy has to be the most or only published journalist in aviation at WSJ. Unfortunately he is consistently wrong. After the Colgan crash he was quoted as saying that in discussing "actual" time there were referring to time spent in icing conditions. It is too bad they can't find someone who can actually do some research and report properly.

Zonker 11-29-2012 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Gillegan (Post 1293994)
I just listened to the interview and I have to say that even by the low standards of some of his predecessors, Capt. Moak fails to impress. What I heard is exactly what has failed ALPA in the past 20 years - a failure to take the long view on what has happened (willingness to entirely surrender their share of the growth to the regionals in exchange for a few pieces of silver) and what is going to happen (MPL). I strongly disagree that things are just fine with major airline pay. On the average, major airline pay has done an abysmal job of keeping up with inflation. Sure, there are some bright spots amidst the doom but it is obvious that the ALPA president views the profession from the paradigm of his own position - a senior DAL captain. To call the statement that the profession has lost its allure, "hogwash" is to ignore the basic economics of what is happening.

I'm starting to like the idea more and more to pay the President of ALPA the salary of the lowest paid captain that he/she represents.

Well said.

Boomer 11-30-2012 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by Gillegan (Post 1293994)
...pay the President of ALPA the salary of the lowest paid captain that he/she represents.

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CATIII 12-01-2012 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by sempergumby (Post 1301553)
You are right Shiznit. There is no better, non spin news than the Jim Lehrer News Hour!

agreed, at least in the US... overseas BBC does a decent job too.


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