Delta buys stake in Virgin Atlantic
12-11-2012, 03:12 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
sigh, more outsourcing.
12-11-2012, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
Where are all the foreign ownership guys to down talk this? Or is that only a one way street for foreign investment in US airlines and not vice versa??
Next.
12-11-2012, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Hmmm, what happens to virgin America? Weren't they suppose to be VA's domestic code share?
12-11-2012, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Then again, they're bleeding cash, and they also have to take appropriate action. I'm not suggesting that we're simply going to waltz in and do all the flying, but I am suggesting we shouldn't fund the solution to VA's structural problems.
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Stand by for more JV giveaways with DALPA's waterboys selling it as "good for us," as usual.
12-11-2012, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
LHR is a money maker, and we are better to be partnered with VA then to lose out on that revenue to someone else.
I'm just curious--in your opinion, has Delta ever done anything that was bad for its pilots?
12-11-2012, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
My man, you have simply got to realize that the company's best interests and the pilots' best interests do not always align. I'm not saying that this is a bad thing for us (yet), but my gosh, you are spring loaded to the "thank you sir may I have another" position, and frankly, it's sickening.
I'm just curious--in your opinion, has Delta ever done anything that was bad for its pilots?
I'm just curious--in your opinion, has Delta ever done anything that was bad for its pilots?
Yes. They parked the freighter operation. Obviously there is no money in cargo planes, which is why just about every large foreign carrier has them. Including Emirates.
Now, your spring loaded "Delta sucks and is out to get us. Anyone who disagrees with me is a widget kool aid guzzler" attitude is sickening to me. So, in your opinion, has Delta ever done anything that was good for its pilots?
12-11-2012, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Hmmm, what happens to virgin America? Weren't they suppose to be VA's domestic code share?
Although, Virgin America was trying to make Newark a bit of a hub to the West Coast, connecting with Virgin Atlantic there. I'd assume Delta's computers are expert enough not to let frequent flier miles accumulate on that sort of itinerary.
Virgin American's "capacity discipline" is, in my opinion, a sign of it's impending death. It has been on financial life support since inception and with a lack of growth comes increasing legacy costs. Increasing costs and stagnation will make the results even uglier.
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12-11-2012, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It has been on financial life support since inception and with a lack of growth comes increasing legacy costs. Increasing costs and stagnation will make the results even uglier.
This is what happens when RB loses interest in you.
Air Nigeria (originally Virgin Nigeria Airways, and then Nigerian Eagle Airlines), was the national flag carrier of Nigeria,[1] which operated scheduled regional and domestic passenger services. The airline, which effectively replaced the defunct Nigeria Airways, was founded in 2004 as a joint venture between Nigerian investors and the Virgin Group. Virgin withdrew from the business during 2008-2010, and, following two name changes, Air Nigeria ceased operations on 10 September 2012.[2]
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