You must be talkin a hellava RTO! Worst case senerio is an Ipod to back of the head. Might sting a little but it ain't gonna kill anybody. Certainly not a good enough reason to have them put way. Maybe they should put infants under the seat for every TO/Landing.

 

And how can you be 100% sure 147 phones are turned off? You can't.

 

Ridiculous circular logic. As if allowing them to have them all on makes it better?

You know it when you go missed and make a semi-ominous PA letting them you may have to divert to a VFR field if they don't turn of their phone. Been there.

Bigger fish to fry like what? The FA's are all back there trying to get to their jumpseats before the gear comes down.

It's simple, put all your stuff away. Your very example will delay in securing the cabin. An extra couple seconds per row determining if you're gonna "let it slide." The pack mentality dictates that looking the other way will only lead to further abuses/haggling by pax.

 

This is hearsay, but I heard the ban came about when they were able to demonstrate the magnetic field generated by the old CD Walkman. This lead to a ban on everything with a spinning disk (old laptops with spinning hard disks)...and because of logistics, banning electronics all together to speed-up the cabin prep. THen came the cell phone which has clearly manifested itself several times as a source of interference.

 

Yes you have. Take your cell phone and put it next to a radio or near your headset. Hear the beeps and bops? That is interference and it happens all the time. I can even tell when the ATC controller has a cell phone on.

Usually it is just a nuisance with noise in the headsets. However, a passenger with a cell phone who is seated near the ILS receivers, radio antenna, or near the magnetic compass sensors can cause a real problem -- especially if the device is malfunctioning and not operating on the proper frequencies.

Unlikely? Yes. If they want to change the law, I suggest they allow the use of these devices only during VFR conditions. Under IFR, I suggest people power down.

 

People should be able to have iPads, kindles, etc. on. They do not interfere at all. Cell phones should remain off but lets be real here. How many people actually power their devices all the way down? The vast majority use airplane mode and the FA never knows. In all the times I have non reved I have never seen anyone turn an iPad, iPod, or iPhone all the way off.

People always put them in airplane mode, hide it from the FA, and half the time people bring them back out and listen to their music/read their book when she isn't looking. Keep the cell phone, radio, tv, etc ban. It is time to join the 21st century and allow the other stuff. I have even seen businessmen close their laptop, wait til the FA is seated and get right back on it. No one has fallen out of the sky yet.

 

But nothing in the current rules says you can't continue to hold a phone or eReader. And plenty of people still do. Along with many other head shattering hard objects. I'd be more concerned about someone using knitting needles or drinking hot coffee in an RTO than I would about someone holding an iPod.

 

Really? I don't recall ever hearing an FA's instruction to turn off all portable electronic devices that didn't include 'stowing' them, as well.

 

OK my bad. So we're back to the venti extra hot latte in one hand and the new hard cover crime thriller in the other. That's WAY safer. Or knitting with long sharp needles. But those iPhone missiles during an RTO, boy is that dangerous LOL!

 

I have to think through all this that the importance of stowing anything and everything is important for safety. I'm probably the odd guy here, but when landing, I'll sit with my feet flat on the floor and I like it when I can have windows open next to me all for landings. Just my preference because I'd never know when the day comes that things may not go normal. You refer to the hot coffee, but I recall the lengths flight attendants go to for the sake of collecting everything they can to throw away, even saying "I need to discard that drink" and such.

From what I've gathered, flight attendants do their final sweep to make sure everything is gathered, all personal bags stowed and electronics off all for the sake of a cabin that doesn't have things left loose to either fly around or impede an exit for somebody. The previously mentioned "but infants don't need to be stowed" by someone leaves me to conclude with another point to think about. One of the flight attendants in the Sioux City crash has been an advocate for requiring all children to have a purchased seat because of those who were killed that were not restrained in a seat during the crash.