For those of you who don't know
01-03-2013 | 12:14 PM
#81
Can't abide NAI
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
When Captain Moak was at Delta he outlined a plan which was identical to this Pinnacle transaction.
If it is true, then I don't know why we bother with Status Reps, MEC s, Executive Councils, Vice Presidents, or a Board of Directors. If true, all we need is a President who acts all on his own.
Of course, facilitating cheaper outsourcing is less complicated than running procurement of plastic sunglasses for WallMart. All that was achieved was a pay cut. Gaining improvements in pay and working conditions takes unity, not unilateral action.
01-03-2013 | 01:33 PM
#82
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Lowest Pay I Could Find
Giving Wychor a hard time isn't right. He's just doing his job representing his pilots. An argument could be made that the President or the Executive Council need to look at the problems that this agreement creates for collective bargaining at Delta, but that's not Wychor's fault. He did his job. And as far as the Admin Manual or C&BL, there is still no clear violation of anything. At best, there is an interpretation issue, which is where the Executive Council would need to get involved. But claiming that policies have been clearly violated is just not true.
The bottom line is National signed on the agreement which will make it harder for DAL to recover outsourcing due to financial penalties. I doubt anyone can argue that. Therefore, this agreement is not in the best interests of DAL pilots and blatantly highlights the conflict of interest at the national level. I would love to hear some counter arguments.
01-03-2013 | 04:52 PM
#83
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From: Recovering Airline Pilot
Now, can you cite all of the lawsuits which ALPA has defended on this same issue?
Do you believe the difference is a matter of interpretation?
01-03-2013 | 06:25 PM
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From: Recovering Airline Pilot
Yes, I'm quite familiar. It had nothing to do with this, however. Ford, Cooksey, and their fellow plaintiffs were attempting to prohibit ALPA from negotiating scope language at DALPA that limited the growth of their own carriers with larger aircraft.
