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benzoate 05-07-2013 05:26 AM

Jetblue PAR email and a raise
 
You are not getting a raise.

Jetblue operates at a 28% CASM advantage over other airlines yet cannot afford to provide you an industry standard pay/benefits package.

The 4/8 8K report clearly states senior leadership bonuses are dependent on maintaining the same CASM so where will the raises come from?

Jetblue claims they cannot afford to provide you a raise without Domestic codesharing which will stagnate growth and seniority.

The PAR claims in a CBA world it cannot take things away YET you have had your health insurance gutted, premium pay reduced from 70 to 78 hours, vacation diminished, PTO arbitrarily changed from premium to base and back to premium, block hours reduced and your overall earnings potential capped.

While the claim that something cannot be taken away is contractually correct jetblue has proven that it does and will make any changes it feels are necessary to your detriment.

The point of all this is Jetblue feels you are not smart enough to read a 10K/8K report. That you don't understand what a 28% CASM advantage provides. That the Direct Relationship provides Jetblue the ability to make changes to your documents is somehow a benefit to you.

The pilots at Jetblue provide Jetblue airways a tremendous financial advantage. Jetblue can and should provide an industry standard/leading pay and benefits package WITHOUT give backs including relaxing scope.

sidestep 05-07-2013 05:57 AM

I don't understand why the 'PAR' team even exists? The only pilot on the PAR is the chief pilot who is less than 2 years from retirement. How exactly am I to believe that any of them - Rich included has my best interests in mind?? I thought we elected the PVC to take care of the annual pay review?

Flyby1206 05-07-2013 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by sidestep (Post 1404880)
I don't understand why the 'PAR' team even exists? The only pilot on the PAR is the chief pilot who is less than 2 years from retirement. How exactly am I to believe that any of them - Rich included has my best interests in mind?? I thought we elected the PVC to take care of the annual pay review?

The PAR is not speaking for the pilots(despite the system chief pilot being head of the team). PAR team represents the ELT.

PVC speaks for the pilots and has designated their own subgroup to deal with the PAR since that is the direction the ELT went. Clear as mud?

sidestep 05-07-2013 06:24 AM

Thanks, that makes a lot more sense. Now to catch up on the 300 emails in the last week from them... :-/

Rabid Seagull 05-07-2013 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 1404856)
The 4/8 8K report clearly states senior leadership bonuses are dependent on maintaining the same CASM so where will the raises come from?

And I'm sure the "unforseen" $20 million E-190 maintenance won't affect their bonuses.

benzoate 05-07-2013 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 1404921)
And I'm sure the "unforseen" $20 million E-190 maintenance won't affect their bonuses.

That's all depends on how it's described. The bonuses being affected by CASM are based on non-fuel expenditures up to 2015. This also explains Jetblues desire to provide you with a three year plan that cannot be changed.

This course allows for the bonuses to be reached while not being affected by OAL contract increases.

Keep this in mind as well. The codeshares JetBlue wants have to be long term. No airline is willing to negotiate a codeshare with Bluejet that only last 2 years as the documents describe.

Keep this in mind when your opinion is asked.

txbusdriver 05-07-2013 11:54 AM

Another PAR committee update.....yawn. The deck is stacked, the game is rigged but this group hasn't had enough. What do you tell a JetBlue pilot with two black eyes? Nothing he hasn't already been told twice.

ZapBrannigan 05-07-2013 11:59 AM

You guys have lots of acronyms.

txbusdriver 05-07-2013 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 1405047)
You guys have lots of acronyms.

The only acronym you need to know is BS. In a nutshell that is what the entire process is.

Beechnut 05-07-2013 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 1405047)
You guys have lots of acronyms.

Oh no kidding! I've been here almost 6 years and I still can't keep up.


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