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80ktsClamp 08-01-2013 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 1455847)
I wasn't. I was responding to a Delta guy putting down the Asiana guys. Different conversation.

You were comparing an accident before CRM was taught to an accident after it has been worldwide adopted and tried and tried again to be taught to asian carriers. I know you just really wanted to go after the meanie head Delta guy, but you chose poorly on accident comparison.

johnso29 08-01-2013 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 1455838)
You guys win. I bow humbly before the mighty widget. :rolleyes:

YOU are the one turning this into a Delta pilot issue.

SpeedyVagabond 08-02-2013 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1455920)
YOU are the one turning this into a Delta pilot issue.

I do come across that way here don't I? My apologies. I love your airline. I used Delta as an example because it was you who seems to be looking down at Asiana. The widget comment was just humor which seldom comes across well on forums.

putzin 08-02-2013 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1455773)
Delta Air Lines founded 1928

Asiana Airlines founded 1988

Seeing as how Delta has been in existence for 60 years MORE then Asiana & was a pioneer in the airline industry, there is a chance more people have perished on Delta.

But you'd have to provide numbers to prove it. And total fatalities doesn't tell the entire story.

Here's something to help get you started. Notice who number 2 & 3 on the least fatalities for US operators list are. In the top 5 if mixed in with foreign operators.

Which Airplanes and Airlines are the Safest? : The Consumer Warning Network

Good for you j. The point is that your comment about 214 was a cheap shot. Personally, no amount of time negates the fact that a life was lost. Get over your superiority complex.

Thank you for the education about the safest airlines. I think I'll ride SWA next time as they are obviously more safe than delta. :cool:

johnso29 08-02-2013 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 1456362)
Good for you j. The point is that your comment about 214 was a cheap shot. Personally, no amount of time negates the fact that a life was lost. Get over your superiority complex.

Thank you for the education about the safest airlines. I think I'll ride SWA next time as they are obviously more safe than delta. :cool:

I don't have a superiority complex. I simply provided numbers to refute your claim. Feel free to ride whomever you wish. It's a free market. :)

johnso29 08-02-2013 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 1456270)
I do come across that way here don't I? My apologies. I love your airline. I used Delta as an example because it was you who seems to be looking down at Asiana. The widget comment was just humor which seldom comes across well on forums.

No worries. I'm personally not looking down on anyone. But their were posts made by people other then me. Asiana 214 could be anyone of us one day. I actually feel bad for the guys. It must've been terrifying going through that in a foreign country. My original point was only that US airlines are far ahead in the field of CRM. I'm very happy that there were so few fatalities from the Asiana accident. I just hope that we can all learn from it, and apply what we learn. Me included.

putzin 08-03-2013 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1456448)
No worries. I'm personally not looking down on anyone. But their were posts made by people other then me. Asiana 214 could be anyone of us one day. I actually feel bad for the guys. It must've been terrifying going through that in a foreign country. My original point was only that US airlines are far ahead in the field of CRM. I'm very happy that there were so few fatalities from the Asiana accident. I just hope that we can all learn from it, and apply what we learn. Me included.

I apologize for my earlier comment.

Cheers


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