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more windshear 09-28-2013 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1492281)
What does upgrade at Spirit do for you?

For me nota whole lot. I already have TPIC but it would give me a bump in pay along with the left seat in a base that I live without commuting, DFW.

Toonces 09-28-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumble View Post
Don't forget the wave of 2001-2003 military guys that were picked up are all hitting the end of their commitment. I'm floored by the number of guys getting out from those I've talked to.
How many estimated?

Estimates are funny and inaccurate. Some guys are leaving because of the job market on the outside picking up, but at least for the Navy, they're leaving because they're not getting promoted. The end of their commitment coincides with the O-4 board, which for the last two years has only been promoting 60% of their aviators.

amcflyboy 09-29-2013 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by more windshear (Post 1491878)
We will definitely have attrition. I'll start my 2nd yr in a couple months and I know guys that are 2 years senior to me trying desperately to get on at DL and UAL. Somewhat surprising considering they're likely within 6-8 months of upgrade. This job is way better than my last regional!

Any job out there is better than the regionals...heck, the job I had in College is better than the regionals!:D

MilitaryAV8R 09-29-2013 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Toonces (Post 1492499)
Quote:
Estimates are funny and inaccurate. Some guys are leaving because of the job market on the outside picking up, but at least for the Navy, they're leaving because they're not getting promoted. The end of their commitment coincides with the O-4 board, which for the last two years has only been promoting 60% of their aviators.

I only wish the Army had a 60% selection rate. For the last 2 years in a row the promotions rate to CW5 has been 20% and when you look at the fixed wing numbers it is less than 10%. That is why I am getting out, I did not invest in enough knee-pads to make a 10% cut.

flyboycpa 09-29-2013 03:39 PM

Per our Head of Flight Ops, United expects to hire between 60-100 per month (total 720-1200) net of what few recalls (600 offered) come back.

Bluedriver 09-29-2013 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by flyboycpa (Post 1493248)
Per our Head of Flight Ops, United expects to hire between 60-100 per month (total 720-1200) net of what few recalls (600 offered) come back.

What time frame?

Merlyn 09-29-2013 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by MilitaryAV8R (Post 1493049)
I only wish the Army had a 60% selection rate. For the last 2 years in a row the promotions rate to CW5 has been 20% and when you look at the fixed wing numbers it is less than 10%. That is why I am getting out, I did not invest in enough knee-pads to make a 10% cut.

There's a small WOPA contingent here at Spirit.

RemoveB4flght 09-29-2013 10:32 PM

I am fine right where I'm at, but there are probably a significant number of pilots currently flying overseas who have been timing a homecoming around a big hiring push.

Guys I've talked to in both seats express an interest in various majors, I think even the first officers could be competitive with thousands of hours in narrow and wide bodies flying to all corners of the globe vs. a guy pushing an RJ up and down the eastern seaboard all day with competent ATC (not a judgement, I did it for many years). I just know I would be pretty damn entertaining during the "Tell me about a time" questioning.

Anyways, point being you should factor a few hundred or so of them into your potential interviewee pool.

HIREME 09-30-2013 05:17 AM

I think the big message is, barring unforeseen economic or military events, a well qualified pilot should have an opportunity to interview at their choice of airline within the next 3-4 years.

HIREME 10-02-2013 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 1491705)
I'd like to get an idea of what the total # of pilots needed by Majors for 2014. Here's what I have so far:
Delta: 500-600
Southwest: 200
Spirit: 300?
Jetblue: 200?
American/UsAir: ????
United: 600

Frontier? Alaska? Hawian? Atlas?

Who am I forgetting? Any idea on the #s for USAir/American?

Roughly 2000-2500 is my best guess...if so, that equates to approxomately 10% of the regional pilots...20%ish of the CAs...25%+ of hireable CAs who want to leave. These #s are guestimates at best...feel free to correct/disagree

UPDATE:
USAA: 600
Frontier: 200ish

So, as far as we can tell from plans, around 3500 will be hired...good, but not great...the last major hiring boom I remember is 2007...anyone know the approximate # hired at that time?


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