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flyboycpa 10-04-2013 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 1493373)
What time frame?

Sorry I was slow in seeing your post/question. It's over the next year, I presume.

Kapitanleutnant 10-09-2013 11:26 PM

When I was hired at a legacy back in the late 80's, most of them were hiring at least 60 a month with my airline at almost 90! This went on for some time so I'd say back then there were about 1000 month getting hired. It was a feeding frenzy!! I was hired by several but chose the best for me at the time.

As some have said, the ONLY issue really from leaving any current employment is the "what if" scenario of say oil skyrocketing due to more middle east turmoil or some other external influence they have no control over.

The US airline industry always seems to be on thin ice and almost collapses at world events in a much more sensitive way than some other countries aviation system.

K

IWalkJun12 10-10-2013 03:27 AM

What does Spirit do for me? Well I got hired 6 years ago. Seniority is upper 300's out of 900. Growing rapidly, 22 new hires a month. Seniority keeps going up. I'm making 150k+ a year. Building a nice company matched 401k. Not getting furloughed, if I do it's too late for us anyhow. I Jumpseated on UAL a couple weeks ago. They were asking about the strike and our contract, while my greedy tail doesn't like the whole thing, there is some great things in there. They were pretty surprised. All they said was that's awesome, we have this and it sucks. So I will stay at lowly spirit, and will be reunited will Bill Franke in 5 years when he sells Frontier. You can't put a price tag on quality of life, well I don't. I will leave the 777 to you guys and just chill in my 320.

Kapitanleutnant 04-01-2014 05:05 AM

Walk…

I wouldn't call Spirit lowly at all!! I've read you all have some of the nicest quality of life pieces in your contract compared to the majors. Lots to be said for that.

I used to not put much of a premium on that aspect of a contract but now I do after having flown in the middle east slave mentality conditions for so long.

Kap

zoooropa 04-01-2014 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by IWalkJun12 (Post 1499326)
What does Spirit do for me? Well I got hired 6 years ago. Seniority is upper 300's out of 900. Growing rapidly, 22 new hires a month. Seniority keeps going up. I'm making 150k+ a year. Building a nice company matched 401k. Not getting furloughed, if I do it's too late for us anyhow. I Jumpseated on UAL a couple weeks ago. They were asking about the strike and our contract, while my greedy tail doesn't like the whole thing, there is some great things in there. They were pretty surprised. All they said was that's awesome, we have this and it sucks. So I will stay at lowly spirit, and will be reunited will Bill Franke in 5 years when he sells Frontier. You can't put a price tag on quality of life, well I don't. I will leave the 777 to you guys and just chill in my 320.

You think it is going to take five years? :) See you between now and then for the SLI.

mike734 04-01-2014 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by CassinAK (Post 1491748)
AS = 16 to 60ish.... Just a guess.

Right. We need 60. Will probably hire 16.

Seriously though, we will retire about 60 and grow somewhat so I'm hoping for closer to 100.

Sliceback 04-01-2014 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 1494988)
UPDATE:
USAA: 600
Frontier: 200ish

So, as far as we can tell from plans, around 3500 will be hired...good, but not great...the last major hiring boom I remember is 2007...anyone know the approximate # hired at that time?

AA - 600
US - 300

Net 900.

Erdude32 04-01-2014 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 1494988)
UPDATE:
USAA: 600
Frontier: 200ish

So, as far as we can tell from plans, around 3500 will be hired...good, but not great...?

Seriously??? This IS great! You're talking 3500+/- just this year! The wave is JUST beginning and will last 10 years, the BIG numbers really kicking in around 2018-2020'ish. By then the Regional Capts & Military guys will have been exhausted. In the meantime, currently the Regional guys have realized the power of Unity and voting NO. Outsourcing is getting ready to die a fast and furious death. In the last management/LCA meeting it was publicly made known that DAL intends to END DCI. They are actively shopping for more 717's wherever they can get them. We already have CRJ900 & EMB195 rates in our current contract. Look for 700 rates to be negotiated next.

5 years from now to path to a DAL 717 or M88 seat will be through an RJ...at mainline.

Sliceback 04-01-2014 03:26 PM

From F2F questioning at WAI (some estimates as no official numbers from a couple of the airlines - SW, UA, DL)

Pilot hiring

AA. 600
JB 300+
UA 100
SW 200
US 300
DL 500-600

Pilot7 04-02-2014 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 1614696)
From F2F questioning at WAI (some estimates as no official numbers from a couple of the airlines - SW, UA, DL)

Pilot hiring

AA. 600
JB 300+
UA 100
SW 200
US 300
DL 500-600


Are those numbers from 2013, or 2014 projections?


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