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paxhauler85 03-06-2014 05:52 AM
Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1596214)
I guess he knows we'll run out of your own house.


lulz.
With your clown shoes regional network comprised of Chautauqua, GoJet and Pinnacle?

Good luck with that - if people want a trash product, they'll take the bus over to DFW and ride on Spirit for $9.

tsquare 03-06-2014 05:52 AM
Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1596248)
Anything the DOJ forces a legacy to give up in order to form a mega legacy carrier will go to a LCC carrier to simply balance things out and offer more consumer choices.
That's a half truth. If you are strictly referring to price, you have a point... sort of. If you are referring to choice of destinations, you are not even close. All the DC consumers are gonna see are more flights to Florida. If that's what they want, then fine, but they should have let the market decide that rather than dictating it via a non competitive bidding process. If DAL would have been allowed to win those slots, and put in flights that were unprofitable, they would go away. But at least the consumer would have had a choice. Wright might be wrong, but so it the "bidding" process.

tsquare 03-06-2014 05:54 AM
Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 1596371)
With your clown shoes regional network comprised of Chautauqua, GoJet and Pinnacle?

Good luck with that - if people want a trash product, they'll take the bus over to DFW and ride on Spirit for $9.


meh...... they will go where they get the best deal. In the case of LUV, all they get is another government sanctioned monopoly, which for some reason is acceptable when it is little ol' Southwest.:rolleyes:

Bugaboo 03-06-2014 06:04 AM
Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1596220)
Delta is basically out from getting the 2 DAL gates due to the DOJ stance of awarding it to LCCs. Delta already does numerous flights from DFW to LGA, so what difference does DAL make. VX would be a new entrant to that market. When you say real competition what exactly would that be besides dumping capacity like UAL did at EWR in an attempt to drive out the new entrant? I guess it's only real competition if your airline affects another but not when Emirates does it to you.
Southwest has 16 gates at Love Field and AA has the two in question. There are 20 so who uses the remaining 2?

JoeyMeatballs 03-06-2014 06:25 AM
Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 1596371)
With your clown shoes regional network comprised of Chautauqua, GoJet and Pinnacle?

Good luck with that - if people want a trash product, they'll take the bus over to DFW and ride on Spirit for $9.
Really? A trash product? We offer the same service that every other airline offers, point A to B. I guess the one difference is brand new, clean aircraft, the other difference is we don't pawn ourselves off like some elite airline, with an ultra exclusive service (though we all know it's complete BS, how elite/bougey is first class on an 88, I mean c'mon........GMAFB

Bugaboo 03-06-2014 06:34 AM
Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1596415)
Really? A trash product? We offer the same service that every other airline offers, point A to B. I guess the one difference is brand new, clean aircraft, the other difference is we don't pawn ourselves off like some elite airline, with an ultra exclusive service (though we all know it's complete BS, how elite/bougey is first class on an 88, I mean c'mon........GMAFB
Sugarcoat how you like but Spirit is a trash product. No shame in it and your company makes a lot of money doing things how they do.
The job of getting the airplane from A-B is the same from a pilots perspective but it is a whole different story for the passengers.

CanoePilot 03-06-2014 06:39 AM
Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1596415)
Really? A trash product? We offer the same service that every other airline offers, point A to B. I guess the one difference is brand new, clean aircraft, the other difference is we don't pawn ourselves off like some elite airline, with an ultra exclusive service (though we all know it's complete BS, how elite/bougey is first class on an 88, I mean c'mon........GMAFB
The virgin product may be nice but it's already obsolete when it comes to "premium" cabins. JetBlue and delta have one upped them and AA's 321T is light years ahead of anything virgin offers.

RJtrashPilot 03-06-2014 06:47 AM
I thought only RJ pilots had schlong measuring contests (for which they are berated every now and then. And by every now and then I mean most of the time.)

I love a little hypocrisy. The world thrives on it these days. It smells so good first thing in the morning, too.

Packrat 03-06-2014 06:51 AM
I wouldn't worry about it too much. VX has a history to going into markets with a big splash and leaving 6 months later with their tail between their legs.

tsquare 03-06-2014 06:54 AM
Originally Posted by Bugaboo (Post 1596422)
Sugarcoat how you like but Spirit is a trash product. No shame in it and your company makes a lot of money doing things how they do.
The job of getting the airplane from A-B is the same from a pilots perspective but it is a whole different story for the passengers.
Yeah, SWA is soooooo much better.:rolleyes:


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