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DC8DRIVER 04-07-2014 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1618548)
I quite agree with the disappointment by an Air Tran Chappy sitting the the right seat. However, I don't think anyone would take it to the point where they would jeopardize their safety or airman certificates to get their point across. Yes without a doubt, its a crappy deal to be stapled to the bottom of any seniority list:mad:

I'm sure AirTran folks are professional. I'm just saying that there will probably be some serious stress in those cockpits which could lead to problems.


Originally Posted by shoelu (Post 1618579)
So why would you apply in the first place?

Because I'm not AirTran. I'd be junior to them if I were hired now (I assume! maybe the SLI keeps them on the bottom forever!). All of us would agree that every airline has problems. Some are company problems. Some are pilot group problems. Some are big glaring problems and some are not so big. Were I hired someplace where I felt I could make a difference and make things better, that's what I would try to do. If I were hired at SWA, there would be many fences to mend by many people.

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WHACKMASTER 04-07-2014 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER (Post 1618681)
I'm sure AirTran folks are professional. I'm just saying that there will probably be some serious stress in those cockpits which could lead to problems.



Because I'm not AirTran. I'd be junior to them if I were hired now (I assume! maybe the SLI keeps them on the bottom forever!). All of us would agree that every airline has problems. Some are company problems. Some are pilot group problems. Some are big glaring problems and some are not so big. Were I hired someplace where I felt I could make a difference and make things better, that's what I would try to do. If I were hired at SWA, there would be many fences to mend by many people.

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You're wasting your electronic breathe. They'll never see that anything wrong happened. While I'm not going to let anything safety related slide, there is a vast majority of the 1,700+ of us who will be looking for retribution and a chance to return the LUV bestowed on us by both SWAPA and SWA management.

slumav505 04-07-2014 06:02 PM

anyone else gotten roughly 5 TBNT letters since the new window opened? I wasn't expecting to hear anything that fast, nor actually get a call. But I've gotten 5 rejection letters for one application. (No major negative items, just no 737 type and no TPIC... yet)

Curious what filter I set off. a simple no would have been sufficient, lol.

Brokeasspot 04-07-2014 06:09 PM

Just a guess would be the zero TPIC, seeing that they have a requirement to have 1,000 of it…

slumav505 04-07-2014 06:19 PM

probably why, just figure I wouldn't get one till the window closed. Everywhere else I haven't heard a peep. Sitting in class today I got 3 of the denial letters. Kick a regional FO while he's down, lol.

Brokeasspot 04-07-2014 06:20 PM

Ha, I feel your pain man. One is plenty!!! What class are you in? Upgrade?

shoelu 04-07-2014 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by slumav505 (Post 1618941)
(No major negative items, just no 737 type and no TPIC... yet)

I certainly can't blame you for applying without the stated minimums, in my opinion it shows that you really want to work there. Apply every window and update the TPIC column until you reach the minimums. However, you really shouldn't be surprised when they shoot you down when you don't meet the minimum requirements directly stated in the job posting.

slumav505 04-07-2014 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Brokeasspot (Post 1618950)
Ha, I feel your pain man. One is plenty!!! What class are you in? Upgrade?


i wish, transferring from the 145 to 170 at RAH. Upgrade isn't far off, but right now they seem to play keep away with it.

captjns 04-08-2014 01:09 AM

Attention Southwest groupies and wanabes.... Time to rip the posters off the walls and ceilings... quit fantasizing! There are other carriers out there hiring.

ClippedWing 04-08-2014 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1619108)
Attention Southwest groupies and wanabes.... Time to rip the posters off the walls and ceilings... quit fantasizing! There are other carriers out there hiring.

And that is our point. Please don't apply to SWA if you don't want to work here. Despite what you think there is still a strong culture of people who love it here and DO want to work here.

I'm sitting in class with 27 very qualified and very happy to be here individuals. Some have applied many times, a couple had interviewed more than once, some got lucky the first time. It's a pretty even mix of military and civilian. The one thing we all have in common. We all are beyond ecstatic to be here! And if that's something you want, keep trying and it will happen.

I hope that if you want to be somewhere else, that is where you end up. If you don't know where you want to be, perhaps that is why you are where you are!

(Disclaimer: this is in no way intended to downplay Airtran integration issues, I hope we find a way to get along amicably in the years to come.)


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