rightside02

When is spirit due for a new contact ? And are you guys under the impression that MGMT will play ball or play rough like years in the past which lead to your strike .

RyanP

That sounds pretty great! What is your seniority like to hold that many days off?

I also like how Spirit has the min 4 days off between trips. That is huge. Heard it's actually supposed to be 5 off..

RyanP

Could someone comment on the travel bennies of each? I am used to American Eagle and having full benefits on AA which will be a hard benefit to lose. I Do a lot of international travel and the First class seats (I could never afford) make it pretty nice.

Do you guys have online travel and ZED fares on partner airlines? What about for friends/family? Anything upgradable?

RyanP

I agree.. After spending over 7 yrs as a regional FO!

This is what kinda worries me about Spirit though. Without the quick upgrade the Spirit FO pay is pretty low for a Major. It would take me 5 years to get back to the pay where I am now (at a regional).

Jamers

Just by taking a quick tab, sounds like we'd have to talk you in to Spirit and talk you out of JetBlue.

Eagle06

I know quite a few guys at JetBlue and here at Spirit. None I know have apps in at the other. A solid half of each have apps in at DL/UA/AA. If that small sample group is any indication, one isn't substantially better than the other.

As far as bases go, I get the appeal of being based where you live. If your heart is set on NE I'd look favorably at JetBlue. Most everywhere else would be Spirit. FL I guess would be 50/50. This is, of course, the airline industry, so bases will come and go. Bases close/shrink at the biggest airlines (DL/CAL/etc) and the smallest (Spirit has had more bases than I can remember). Also, the OP mention LGB. Moving there is great, but if your concern is upgrade, you could be limiting yourself. Just like DTW at NK .

Money/contract:
The contract is what it is. Keep in mind that Spirit got this contract in 2010, and at the time it was much more competitive. Think of what our counterparts at US Airways, United, and Virgin where making back then. I'm glad these airlines have all raised the bar since, and I hope that makes our lives easier on the next one. Our pay, benefits, and work rules are subject to change every 5 years, and today's low company could be tomorrow's high. Southwest in the late 90's vs mid 2000's is a great example.

I like some things in JetBlues working agreement that I hope we get, but for the most part I greatly enjoy the contract here. It's a work hard, play hard type mentality for me. As an FO in the top 50% I can bid conflicts every month or two. That gives me the option of having 20 days off for line value or working a little extra and bringing home some significant credit. Having the option is nice. I just got back from a camping trip (due to my conflict induced 8 days off) with a good friend from US Airways. Their Airbus compensation might be better than ours (only as of, what, a year ago?), but otherwise I prefer just about everything in our contract vs. theirs.

All just food for thought. Go where you get hired first, unless your heart is really set on something else, in which case keep trying and hope for the best. You can always leave for DL later!!!

ManFlex

If you're already a regional captain, why mess with either NK or B6? Do you not want to work for a legacy?

The Juice

Yeah, I'm seeing that too.

Btw. Congrats getting on at Spirit.

RyanP

Honestly.. I think I just know more about Jetblue since I'm in their jumpseat a lot. Spirit may be a really great to work. I just don't know anyone there. I have been to a Vegas job fair, listened to the presentation, read the corporate info and read the forums. Thats about it. My ride on them was painfully uncomfortable at my height and all the passengers were complaining. Plus I would see passengers yelling at the check in counter at Ohare sometimes, lol. This is all I have seen, and I imagine there is more to the story that I am missing. So trying to learn more of the "good" about Spirit. The huge NK thread has so much sidetracking and infighting its hard to get anywhere really.

The Juice

Well you went to a job fair, so I assume you have an app in. Did you get the long app? Cog test? If you received none of this, it may be best to not be too concerned with how you are going to deal with certain aspects of Spirit.