ManFlex

I wouldn't characterize them as good. They are amicable at times and contentious at others. For the most part, Spirit is light on management so they mostly leave us alone. That I will say is very nice. No phone calls or visits from the 'uniform police'.

Relationships between employee groups are decent to pretty good. The pilot group as a whole is very solid with few outliers. I'd say we go out of our way to look out for one another.

RyanP

Thanks. Coming from a place (AAG) where relations are Hostile/Threatening with an obscene overabundance of incompetent middle management who have no responsibility and only know how to shift blame.. Your's doesn't sound too bad.

bruhaha

Travel privileges on Spirit are ID90's on United and a **few** other carriers, but not Delta or American, and obviously Spirit.

I haven't had to non-rev on Spirit, but my experience is most flights are usually full, so it might be difficult to get a family onboard a Spirit flight.

Just don't fly with the FO that's sending pics of people he thinks aren't appropriately uniformed correctly to the CP directly.

ManFlex

Seriously? PM me some info.

JoeyMeatballs

I heard some rumblings about more cities/Flying out of ACY in the fall but I'll believe it when it shows up in the bid packet. I'm surprised we haven't made a huge push in Philly or increased service out of ACY. Flights are usually full and I would imagine we could charge half what united does out of EWR and still make money and I would imagine wed be cheaper than US air out of Philly........

Who knows..........

rightside02

Of course I wouldn't turn down a legacy. Being realistic, My chances of being hired at Delta currently are slim to none. Not a military, check airman, chief pilot, astronaut. Plus the arrogance over their isn't something I particularly want to deal with. I do transcon commutes on them regularly and have never been treated worse on any airline. As soon as they find out I'm not military it's 5 hours of isolation. Or when I ask about hiring the jackasses say their regionals are hiring and I should go there. ***? The last CA said "I heard you guys are going out of business soon since you voted down that TA" and laughed. I wanted to punch his face in.. Of course not Everyone there is like this, there are some really great guys there that have treated me very well.. But this isn't an anomaly.. Its a trend over there and many many of my co-workers say the same thing. I don't know why getting hired over there turns guys into arrogant jerkoffs but it seems to do that. Plus all their bases besides super senior LAX are not desirable for me. I'm sure I will **** off someone but oh well.. Like I said. There is some great crews there it's just I've had lots of bad experiences there, where this doesn't seem to happen anywhere else in the world. LAX and JFK specifically. Even in our crashpad they have some sort of superiority complex.

AA well, I work for them now so they won't really hire Eagle guys unless you are military, ethnically diverse/female or your dad was in a 9/11 plane. It is what it is. Just have our flow through eventually one day. Maybe. Which is certainly not a guarantee.

United? Shaky financials.. Prefer Jetblue and Spirit domiciles.. I'm going to the FFD job fair so we'll see how that goes.

USair was the only Legacy really regularly hiring normal line guys, now AA took over so thats done.

Spirit and Jetblue are my best shot at getting out of regional hell right now and I would probably be happy at either long term. I don't care about the airplane size. I care far more about living in base some place warm with good QOL and days off. 1/2/3 day trips are ideal for me. I don't want long 4+ day trips if I can avoid them. Also I care about working for a company that treats people like humans and not indentured servants. Another thing, it would be nice to work with a good group of people my own age for once. I've spent the majority of my flying career working with people 25-30 years older with grandkids. It's not horrible but its just a huge cultural gap that makes the job less fun. Working with younger fun crews just won't happen at legacy's.[/QUOTE]

This is my exact problem with Delta , I know their are nice and great guys there , but it is few and far between when it comes to the social aspect ... I have plenty of stories like the above described , now if Delta calls tomorrow yes I am gonna jump on it cause it would be silly from a career and financial decision not too. Coming from B6 tho it would be a culture shock. Although I did have two great buddies just leave us here at Blue for Delta , and so far they have said it's been great. Treated much dif then when they were on the outside .

Inside or not , some of the attitude I have seen displayed by these mainline guys is beyond D-bag and just plain bad manners . Those of you D guys out there that aren't the social inept ones keep your old guys on a social leash ...

Climbto450

They said the same thing when I started. 4 years later I could hold upgrade in either airframe.

RyanP

What are the min days off? Line/RSV?

Std Deviation

I can tell you (with certainty) they pay $425 a week for 4 month FO's waiting for a class date in phase II at B6.

Feng

So you'll spend a total of ~6 months at envoy before bailing, haha, that is awesome. You ought to make them fight you for the bonus back too.