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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 1735860)
Respectfully, I don't think killing people by the hundreds should be gratifying, whatever the circumstances.
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 1735860)
I'm amazed at how artificial and influenced by society 's whims our economy is. How can something so intangible be so fragile?
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 1735860)
Of course, if people just went on with their business on 9/12 it would've rendered the attack completely ineffective.
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 1735860)
They weren't just crashing planes, their goal was a reaction. And they got it. We brought the rest down on ourselves.
Carl |
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1735914)
Ah the good old "they hate us because of our freedom". Maybe we should take a long hard look at how the Brits divided up those areas with no regard for the individual tribes that hate each other. Meddling is what got us into this mess.
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1735914)
The only people attacking our freedoms are the ones that we were sleepily voting in to govern us.
Carl |
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 1735860)
Respectfully, I don't think killing people by the hundreds should be gratifying, whatever the circumstances.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1735986)
Absolute far left lunacy. British colonialism and American "meddling" brought order and disease cure to millions of people who lived in horrific tribal conditions with extremely low life expectancies. That work was done by heroes in the British colonial services and the American military at great cost in blood and treasure. Now you call it meddling and claim it as the reason they hate us and infer we deserve it. I hope as you grow up, you'll realize how foolish you sound.
The Middle East deserves the conditions they live in. Let's try leaving em alone with an air tight immigration policy and some warheads aimed in their direction. Pure stupidity. Do you even pay attention to world events? Carl Patriot Act? Democrats too! What a mess this place is, and now the liberals want us to think that "if you don't have anything to hide" you should be okay with all this government interference. |
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1735914)
Ah the good old "they hate us because of our freedom". Maybe we should take a long hard look at how the Brits divided up those areas with no regard for the individual tribes that hate each other. Meddling is what got us into this mess.
The only people attacking our freedoms are the ones that we were sleepily voting in to govern us. You have control of your vote. If you don't like it - work to change it. Let's see how far you get if you don't agree with some of the opposing views and voice them in the open cencal. |
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 1736036)
I don't care why they hate us.
You have control of your vote. If you don't like it - work to change it. Let's see how far you get if you don't agree with some of the opposing views and voice them in the open cencal. Those people think they can control Westerners in their country? I wore shorts all the time. True American women didn't follow their silly policy of covering their heads. Christmas, you're darn right! Why? Why do we, 1) ally ourselves with Islam, 2) care about the humanitarian failure of that religion? |
Jeez guys, I only suggested that killing in war shouldn't be a happy thing. You'd think I said we should offer them flowers and they'd be nice to us. Taking life is an unfortunate thing, and while it is sadly a necessary evil at times, like now, it's not a celebratory activity. That's all I'm saying. I can't believe that position needs explanation.
The shock to us personally did hurt the economy for a short time, but we recovered very quickly |
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1736035)
Can you point me to any book that can prove that the Brits didn't totally screw the pooch when it comes to their imperial colonialism in the Middle East?
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1736035)
Please, tell me, what did the country of Iraq look like in 1900? 1600? How about Iran?
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1736035)
The Middle East deserves the conditions they live in. Let's try leaving em alone with an air tight immigration policy and some warheads aimed in their direction.
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1736035)
You voted for Obama huh?
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1736035)
His administration has only further eroded the freedoms our military puts themselves in harms way to protect.
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1736035)
Patriot Act? Democrats too! What a mess this place is, and now the liberals want us to think that "if you don't have anything to hide" you should be okay with all this government interference.
Carl |
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 1736039)
Jeez guys, I only suggested that killing in war shouldn't be a happy thing. You'd think I said we should offer them flowers and they'd be nice to us. Taking life is an unfortunate thing, and while it is sadly a necessary evil at times, like now, it's not a celebratory activity. That's all I'm saying. I can't believe that position needs explanation.
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 1736039)
Tell that to all the guys who've been stuck at the regionals since 9/11.
Carl |
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 1735914)
The ONLY people attacking our freedoms are the ones that we were sleepily voting in to govern us.
As for DJ's comment, there's no need to react emotionally. I did not relish the kill, but when the dogs of war are unleashed, it's best not to get in their way. Some really bad people needed to die. I always had a slight nag on my conscience when hitting fielded forces, because those people may or may not have been true Taliban...many were just conscripted villagers. I usually never knew except when working with SOF teams (once they got there). It was necessary. However, true Taliban and Al Queda targets...different story. I've never felt more alive than when I was shot at. I've also never been more proud of a job well done. I excuse not myself...but I also wouldn't ask one of the protected to understand. |
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