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09-30-2014, 02:56 AM

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Yeah, and why should United control so much of O'hare? Why does Delta control so much of Atlanta? Oh, and why does American control so much of Dallas-Ft Worth?

That pretty much covers the rest of the dumb questions.

Except for the fact that other airlines are allowed gate access at those airports if they want to fly out of there. No other airport has anything like the situation at love field.

09-30-2014, 02:58 AM

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The airline was stunned with a two week notice. Really? The math is simple. 20 gates. 16 for SWA, 2 Virgin, and 2 United. That's all 20. Hardly any room to be "shocked" when the city council announced a couple months ago that VX would be getting the two gates given up by AA as required by the government.

Delta was told by the city that the five flights would be allowed to continue. There is more then enough gate capacity.

09-30-2014, 04:20 AM

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Delta was told by the city that the five flights would be allowed to continue. There is more then enough gate capacity.

.....not since SWA and VX both announced an aggressive schedule for their own respective gates. That leaves United as a wild card but somehow I think they too are aggressively using their two gates in the future.

09-30-2014, 04:37 AM

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Except for the fact that other airlines are allowed gate access at those airports if they want to fly out of there. No other airport has anything like the situation at love field.

No other airport has been hamstrung like DAL. SWA has been operating out of there for 40 years with this dumb rule and nobody cared. Now all of the sudden they are making a big deal about it because other airlines can make money there.

It would be ironic, though, if Delta was operating flights there with 717s that SWA is leasing them at bargain rates within view of Gary's office window.

09-30-2014, 04:46 AM

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Except for the fact that other airlines are allowed gate access at those airports if they want to fly out of there. No other airport has anything like the situation at love field.

Not exact, but look at the Bleep show that is White Plains, NY.

09-30-2014, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Except for the fact that other airlines are allowed gate access at those airports if they want to fly out of there. No other airport has anything like the situation at love field.

You can thank AA for that. Delta isn't the hometown airline, and won't be waited on hand and foot in Dallas. If you want in, perhaps you should begin a campaign to alter the Wright Amendment, as amended, to allow for more gates. There's plenty of room for more gates at Love, but the politicians decided on 20 to limit how much damage could be done to DFW.

Take it up with them.

09-30-2014, 06:23 AM

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Maybe we can trade gates? 2 in Dallas for 2 in New York.

09-30-2014, 06:34 AM

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Auction the gates. Let the market work.

Pizzas = corruption.

09-30-2014, 06:46 AM

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Is Delta really going to make that much more money running 5 flights to ATL from DAL vs DFW? I would think if we cut the 5 DAL flights and added 5 more to ATL from DFW we would be better off.

09-30-2014, 07:53 AM

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Except for the fact that other airlines are allowed gate access at those airports if they want to fly out of there. No other airport has anything like the situation at love field.

You can thank Jim Wright, former speaker of the house from Fort Worth, for attaching the Wright Amendment to the International Air Transportation Act of 1979 to protect D/FW from losing business. Wright pushed through the Amendment, limiting Love to non-stop flights within Texas and to Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma and New Mexico.

In October of 2006, President Bush signs a bill that fully repealed the Wright Amendment. Southwest, American, D/FW and the cities of Dallas and Fort Worth all agree to the repeal, but on several conditions, including that the Wright zone restrictions stay intact until 2014, lowering Love Field's maximum gate capacity to 20 from 32 and keeping Love a domestic airport only.

American operates out of 134 of the 165 gates at DFW, a larger percentage of total gates than SWA operates out of Love.

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