Being an Expat working for United
10-04-2014 | 04:34 PM
#42
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Flying Boxes,
Have actually been to Australia? If not, it has the usual complement of beautiful, ugly, average, fat and skinny girls. Same for guys, btw. QF won't hire until it goes out of business and JetStar takes their routes. I think they're down to just over 30 planes.
GF
Have actually been to Australia? If not, it has the usual complement of beautiful, ugly, average, fat and skinny girls. Same for guys, btw. QF won't hire until it goes out of business and JetStar takes their routes. I think they're down to just over 30 planes.
GF
10-04-2014 | 08:35 PM
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“QF in Australia use to require very difficult high school subjects.”
QF require maths, Ansett wanted Physics.
“most people wanted to work for QF.”
When I joined Ansett it was the bees knees of jobs along with TAA. Qantas was second fiddle.
“Beautiful women is an extra bonus”
What, they are going to base crews in Italy? Sweet.
“QF won't hire until it goes out of business and JetStar takes their routes”
I suspect QF will never hire a mainline pilot again. They will set up the 50+ 787 fleet with a new contract and hire external candidates to fill the slots not filled by QF and JQ pilots after being offered first choice.
“FYI, will an online degree count? (e.g. University of Phoenix) Yes!”
How long would a UofP course take? Would they credit ATP and flight experience for an aviation related course?
QF require maths, Ansett wanted Physics.
“most people wanted to work for QF.”
When I joined Ansett it was the bees knees of jobs along with TAA. Qantas was second fiddle.
“Beautiful women is an extra bonus”
What, they are going to base crews in Italy? Sweet.
“QF won't hire until it goes out of business and JetStar takes their routes”
I suspect QF will never hire a mainline pilot again. They will set up the 50+ 787 fleet with a new contract and hire external candidates to fill the slots not filled by QF and JQ pilots after being offered first choice.
“FYI, will an online degree count? (e.g. University of Phoenix) Yes!”
How long would a UofP course take? Would they credit ATP and flight experience for an aviation related course?
10-04-2014 | 09:48 PM
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I was referring to the QF from 2000 onwards. Ansett had very limited to no recruitment before there demise. My dad worked for AN when they went out of business just as I was looking for work 
For all of the American's reading this thread, if QF start recruiting & you meet the minimums, go for it. The biggest hassles you'll have are getting residency & getting your licences to fly (dealing with CASA is not fun)
For all of the American's reading this thread, if QF start recruiting & you meet the minimums, go for it. The biggest hassles you'll have are getting residency & getting your licences to fly (dealing with CASA is not fun)
10-04-2014 | 09:57 PM
#47
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
There are some negatives, however. Your block off days may not coincide with family events or occasions. You'll lose touch with close friends which will turn into acquaintances or just be an erasure in your address book. It can put a strain on the Spouse, too with young kids in tow.
Still, all in all I would choose the expat route over the boring and sometimes tense corned beef on white bread with mayonnaise life style with any US carrier.
Four year degree? Definitely important should one need an alternative profession if one loses his medical. Required overseas? Some yes, more for FOs, but not DECs. Overseas carriers do require technical knowledge.
Larger well known and stable carriers outside the U.S. will hire low time pilots, however, time on aircraft above certain weight classes are required. The flip side is that upgrades are faster overseas than in the US. Generally upgrades with overseas carriers are not based on seniority, but rather on performance.
10-05-2014 | 02:39 AM
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Very true! Took my voluntary leave from HP in 1991 when offered. Flying overseas hmmmm. In some 22 years, I never took a pay cut, no cut backs on medical benefits, accumulated retirement funds not robbed by my carriers which i did not have to rely any union to protect. Business class travel to and from US base airport with confirmed positive space tickets to my home airport. 5 star hotels wit proper allowances. Take advantage of the carrier's network and travel. Being an expat is not for everyone. It provided me and the family with far greater financial income and security, not to mention of living round the world in locations I chose, and not some base where I would have to sit reserve in some crappy crash pad.
There are some negatives, however. Your block off days may not coincide with family events or occasions. You'll lose touch with close friends which will turn into acquaintances or just be an erasure in your address book. It can put a strain on the Spouse, too with young kids in tow.
Still, all in all I would choose the expat route over the boring and sometimes tense corned beef on white bread with mayonnaise life style with any US carrier.
Four year degree? Definitely important should one need an alternative profession if one loses his medical. Required overseas? Some yes, more for FOs, but not DECs. Overseas carriers do require technical knowledge.
Larger well known and stable carriers outside the U.S. will hire low time pilots, however, time on aircraft above certain weight classes are required. The flip side is that upgrades are faster overseas than in the US. Generally upgrades with overseas carriers are not based on seniority, but rather on performance.
There are some negatives, however. Your block off days may not coincide with family events or occasions. You'll lose touch with close friends which will turn into acquaintances or just be an erasure in your address book. It can put a strain on the Spouse, too with young kids in tow.
Still, all in all I would choose the expat route over the boring and sometimes tense corned beef on white bread with mayonnaise life style with any US carrier.
Four year degree? Definitely important should one need an alternative profession if one loses his medical. Required overseas? Some yes, more for FOs, but not DECs. Overseas carriers do require technical knowledge.
Larger well known and stable carriers outside the U.S. will hire low time pilots, however, time on aircraft above certain weight classes are required. The flip side is that upgrades are faster overseas than in the US. Generally upgrades with overseas carriers are not based on seniority, but rather on performance.
10-05-2014 | 03:20 AM
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Been there, done that
Flying Boxes,
Have actually been to Australia? If not, it has the usual complement of beautiful, ugly, average, fat and skinny girls. Same for guys, btw. QF won't hire until it goes out of business and JetStar takes their routes. I think they're down to just over 30 planes.
GF
Have actually been to Australia? If not, it has the usual complement of beautiful, ugly, average, fat and skinny girls. Same for guys, btw. QF won't hire until it goes out of business and JetStar takes their routes. I think they're down to just over 30 planes.
GF
Yes, I have been to Australia. I do realize that Aussies come in all variety. But I very much enjoy my time there and do think they have many beautiful woman. Not meant as an insult to another country or region. Just my opinion.
10-05-2014 | 04:26 AM
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If you are a current ATP holder, few thousand hours, clean record, I give it less than 3-5 years for everyone to be able to get on with whatever major they want. That is unless WW III starts before that. If you, like me, are an 80s baby the degree doesn't mean a thing. It only shows you been partying for 5 years and had enough money to burn. I learn more from reading the Economist and Foreign Affairs on my 4-day trips.
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