Delta 30 Gates In SEA
12-17-2014, 08:29 AM
#601
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,503
Originally Posted by F15Cricket
Is that the new E175 "operated by SkyWest" on its way back from Juneau and Ketchikan?
Speaking of scope here right? You know how folks say a picture is with a thousand words? I found this picture the other day that really succinctly describes your all's "scope situation" in at least that many words or more.
Basically, with no scope clause the pilots are screwed and are dead men walking, or trapped in this case.
I'll let you figure out which one is 'management mouse.'
Anyways cricket, where do you suppose they are gonna put these?
Scope Clauses May Affect Use Of New RJs
Maximum takeoff weight concerns could impede MRJ90 and E175-E2 sales in U.S. market
.
Jul 1, 2013 ANDREW COMPART | Aviation Week & Space Technology
Airlines have high hopes for the next generation of regional jets, which are larger and promise to have much lower unit costs than earlier and smaller models. But U.S. carriers have to face the question of whether their pilots will actually allow them to fly some of these aircraft types.
Mitsubishi Aircraft and Embraer face a potentially hefty problem in the U.S. market with the new regional jets they are developing: a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) that could prevent regional carriers from operating the jets for their major airline partners.
To boost—and protect—their sales in the U.S., manufacturers will have to either trim the weight, change the certificated weight for the U.S. market or hope for a change in pilots' union collective bargaining agreements.
Almost all of the union contracts with the major U.S. carriers—with Alaska Airlines being one notable exception—forbid them from outsourcing flying to any aircraft certificated in the U.S. with an MTOW exceeding 86,000 lb. But the specifications Embraer just unveiled for its E175-E2 show an MTOW of 97,731 lb. Mitsubishi Aircraft's specifications for the MRJ90 indicate an MTOW of 87,303 lb. for the standard model, 90,378 lb. for the extended range and 94,358 lb. for the long range, and its MR70LR is about 2,600 lb. over the contractual maximum.
That could be a big problem, because regional carrier operations are the manufacturers' target market in the U.S. Even St. George, Utah-based SkyWest Inc.—which has placed firm orders for 100 Mitsubishi MRJ90LR and 100 Embraer 175-E2 jets, plus 100 options on each—acknowledges the importance of the issue.
Scope. It's not just a mouth wash.
12-17-2014, 08:58 AM
#602
Doesn't Get Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,598
Originally Posted by F15Cricket
Is that the new E175 "operated by SkyWest" on its way back from Juneau and Ketchikan? 
12-17-2014, 10:32 AM
#604
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 148
Originally Posted by TheManager
Hey cricket, what's up?
Speaking of scope here right? You know how folks say a picture is with a thousand words? I found this picture the other day that really succinctly describes your all's "scope situation" in at least that many words or more.
Basically, with no scope clause the pilots are screwed and are dead men walking, or trapped in this case.
I'll let you figure out which one is 'management mouse.'
Anyways cricket, where do you suppose they are gonna put these?
Scope Clauses May Affect Use Of New RJs
Maximum takeoff weight concerns could impede MRJ90 and E175-E2 sales in U.S. market
.
Jul 1, 2013 ANDREW COMPART | Aviation Week & Space Technology
Airlines have high hopes for the next generation of regional jets, which are larger and promise to have much lower unit costs than earlier and smaller models. But U.S. carriers have to face the question of whether their pilots will actually allow them to fly some of these aircraft types.
Mitsubishi Aircraft and Embraer face a potentially hefty problem in the U.S. market with the new regional jets they are developing: a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) that could prevent regional carriers from operating the jets for their major airline partners.
To boost—and protect—their sales in the U.S., manufacturers will have to either trim the weight, change the certificated weight for the U.S. market or hope for a change in pilots' union collective bargaining agreements.
Almost all of the union contracts with the major U.S. carriers—with Alaska Airlines being one notable exception—forbid them from outsourcing flying to any aircraft certificated in the U.S. with an MTOW exceeding 86,000 lb. But the specifications Embraer just unveiled for its E175-E2 show an MTOW of 97,731 lb. Mitsubishi Aircraft's specifications for the MRJ90 indicate an MTOW of 87,303 lb. for the standard model, 90,378 lb. for the extended range and 94,358 lb. for the long range, and its MR70LR is about 2,600 lb. over the contractual maximum.
That could be a big problem, because regional carrier operations are the manufacturers' target market in the U.S. Even St. George, Utah-based SkyWest Inc.—which has placed firm orders for 100 Mitsubishi MRJ90LR and 100 Embraer 175-E2 jets, plus 100 options on each—acknowledges the importance of the issue.
Scope. It's not just a mouth wash.
Speaking of scope here right? You know how folks say a picture is with a thousand words? I found this picture the other day that really succinctly describes your all's "scope situation" in at least that many words or more.
Basically, with no scope clause the pilots are screwed and are dead men walking, or trapped in this case.
I'll let you figure out which one is 'management mouse.'
Anyways cricket, where do you suppose they are gonna put these?
Scope Clauses May Affect Use Of New RJs
Maximum takeoff weight concerns could impede MRJ90 and E175-E2 sales in U.S. market
.
Jul 1, 2013 ANDREW COMPART | Aviation Week & Space Technology
Airlines have high hopes for the next generation of regional jets, which are larger and promise to have much lower unit costs than earlier and smaller models. But U.S. carriers have to face the question of whether their pilots will actually allow them to fly some of these aircraft types.
Mitsubishi Aircraft and Embraer face a potentially hefty problem in the U.S. market with the new regional jets they are developing: a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) that could prevent regional carriers from operating the jets for their major airline partners.
To boost—and protect—their sales in the U.S., manufacturers will have to either trim the weight, change the certificated weight for the U.S. market or hope for a change in pilots' union collective bargaining agreements.
Almost all of the union contracts with the major U.S. carriers—with Alaska Airlines being one notable exception—forbid them from outsourcing flying to any aircraft certificated in the U.S. with an MTOW exceeding 86,000 lb. But the specifications Embraer just unveiled for its E175-E2 show an MTOW of 97,731 lb. Mitsubishi Aircraft's specifications for the MRJ90 indicate an MTOW of 87,303 lb. for the standard model, 90,378 lb. for the extended range and 94,358 lb. for the long range, and its MR70LR is about 2,600 lb. over the contractual maximum.
That could be a big problem, because regional carrier operations are the manufacturers' target market in the U.S. Even St. George, Utah-based SkyWest Inc.—which has placed firm orders for 100 Mitsubishi MRJ90LR and 100 Embraer 175-E2 jets, plus 100 options on each—acknowledges the importance of the issue.
Scope. It's not just a mouth wash.
12-17-2014, 03:48 PM
#605
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 403
Originally Posted by jamesrhatcher
Don't make me stop cleaning this toilet and come out of the stall to deal with you. Don't let the fact that I'm in a wheelchair and have a speech predicament make you think I don't know how to use a toilet brush and plunger to deal with your kind!
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wannabepilot
Flight Schools and Training
34
07-07-2008 12:15 PM
