Jetblue begins negotiations
03-16-2015, 06:10 PM
#131
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
Could this be negotiable to include while in base as well (to avoid crash pad expenses)? Maybe even extend it to recurrent to open up space at the Lodge. Drop the meal credit and offer 1 shape up box, and 2 bags Blue Chips (Sweets and Blues at the holidays of course).
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03-16-2015, 09:23 PM
#132
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Originally Posted by BlueBlood
You mean inefficient
For me 5 per day would be efficient enough
I am curious about other guys' expectations
Anybody?
For me 5 per day would be efficient enough
I am curious about other guys' expectations
Anybody?
03-17-2015, 11:22 AM
#133
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Originally Posted by dogpilot
Ineffective works for me as they lack time off producing metrics, but if I'm not mistaken inefficient may be synonymous anyhow.
Anybody else?
Expectations?
I would like to get an idea
of what are we aiming for
03-17-2015, 02:18 PM
#134
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5:30 to 6:00 per day or I'm voting No. If they're going to stick with the paltry 5, then we have to be able to bid 70 hour lines if we choose to, and not be forced to a minute more. I'm in this gig for the days off. 80+ bid divisors are bulls@@t.
03-17-2015, 08:10 PM
#135
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Originally Posted by LoudFastRules
5:30 to 6:00 per day or I'm voting No. If they're going to stick with the paltry 5, then we have to be able to bid 70 hour lines if we choose to, and not be forced to a minute more. I'm in this gig for the days off. 80+ bid divisors are bulls@@t.
We should be able to drop below 70
like many others airlines can do.
If I want to drop to zero without pay
I should be able to
And there would be more open time
for others to pick up.
It's all about the options
03-18-2015, 03:56 AM
#136
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Originally Posted by LoudFastRules
5:30 to 6:00 per day or I'm voting No. If they're going to stick with the paltry 5, then we have to be able to bid 70 hour lines if we choose to, and not be forced to a minute more. I'm in this gig for the days off. 80+ bid divisors are bulls@@t.
03-18-2015, 07:28 AM
#137
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Originally Posted by BlueBlood
I like days off too
We should be able to drop below 70
like many others airlines can do.
If I want to drop to zero without pay
I should be able to
And there would be more open time
for others to pick up.
It's all about the options
We should be able to drop below 70
like many others airlines can do.
If I want to drop to zero without pay
I should be able to
And there would be more open time
for others to pick up.
It's all about the options
Well you have to work enough to make up for what you cost the company just to be on the payroll (taxes, insurance, etc.), so a certain level should be maintained. Maybe 35 hours? Anything would be better than what we have now.
But remember that isn't a zero cost item for the company. There are lots of people picking up that time at 1.5 time. Or more senior guys getting it at a higher rate. So we need to determine our priorities and go for those things that are most important.
03-18-2015, 08:40 AM
#138
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There are a number of majors that have credit caps. Us Air for one, I have buddies there that tell me it something like 80-85 hours depending on the month. You think anyone will want to go this direction?
03-18-2015, 05:41 PM
#139
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Originally Posted by Beechnut58
There are a number of majors that have credit caps. Us Air for one, I have buddies there that tell me it something like 80-85 hours depending on the month. You think anyone will want to go this direction?
03-21-2015, 04:20 AM
#140
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Originally Posted by Southerner
Well you have to work enough to make up for what you cost the company just to be on the payroll (taxes, insurance, etc.), so a certain level should be maintained. Maybe 35 hours? Anything would be better than what we have now.
But remember that isn't a zero cost item for the company. There are lots of people picking up that time at 1.5 time. Or more senior guys getting it at a higher rate. So we need to determine our priorities and go for those things that are most important.
But remember that isn't a zero cost item for the company. There are lots of people picking up that time at 1.5 time. Or more senior guys getting it at a higher rate. So we need to determine our priorities and go for those things that are most important.
But if a senior guy drops
and a junior guy picks up
isn't this convenient for the company?
I know there are more important issues
but this one is a high priority to me
No cap and no dropping limit
Wouldn't it be nice to have options?
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