^^^^^
This may be the best advice ever posted here.

Very much ageed!

Yes, I do.

Can you even write properly?

Like most posters mentioned here, it's about quality of life in the long run.

What are you going to do with your Captain's rank if you get it in 2 years? Go apply to DL or SWA in 3 years? Or brag about your 4 bars to a bar chick across your motel?

15 or so years as an FO at SWA/DL is better than an regional airline like yours. Haven't you met a 20 year B777/747 FO at DL/UAL that can hold A330/B767/757 CA?

Looks like it's your first jet plane from flying a B1900. It shows rookie!

Truly a rookie fresh from indoc. No clue at all

Go where you'll be happy, avoid commuting if you can, love your wife, your kids and live within your means. Invest your money wisely, have business that earns outside of your airline job, and recognize all these pay charts with their 401K contributions are meaningless as soon as you're diagnosed with incurable pancreatic cancer![/QUOTE]



Well said Sulkair, we should just end this thread with this post.

The difference between upgrading in two or three years and 20 years is an indication of quality of life... A 20 year upgrade means many years on rsv, and many years waiting for the domicile you want. Upgrading quickly offers more money, and it means you are moving up the seniority list which equates to quality of life. A quickly growing airline is better than one that has reached a critical mass and can't grow more than a percent or two a year.

And yes, I understand that some people bypass upgrades and larger equipment to maintain quality of life. You can bypass upgrade at frontier and be a senior fo if you want. Can't really do that when upgrade takes 20 years at SWA.

You asked what im going to do with my quick upgrade. I plan on using the pay raise to help support my wife and kids, not brag to the bar chick at the motel. I'm sorry that I appreciate my job. Anyhow this thread is meant for people that are considering a job at frontier. Personally criticizing me doesn't add anything useful to the conversation.

A cursory glance at your posting history shows all you're good at, is casting insults.

The words sulkair shared describe why F9 is where I'd like to be, and the fact that for the most part the posts about F9 shine a positive light on the company! ...now if only they'd lift the 500pic requirement!!

This is not true.

This is not true even if you're a company cheerleader trying to encourage new hire pilots so they won't bail for greener pastures.

I would say that the top 20% of the captain group (excluding those involved with the training department gravy train) average 180K per year. There's simply NO way that the overall average is $180K when the 20% on reserve are probably doing well do break $140K. Keep in mind that there's only a $20/hr difference between the lowest paid captain and the highest.

I'm basing my earnings estimates on what appears on a W2, not what some company cheerleader might want to impute based on a 5% company match to a 401k or a 6% defined contribution plan. Or what XX number of days of vacation may or may not be worth.

Frontier's lowest paid captain makes about $137 an hour and the highest is $149. The monthly minimum guarantee is 75 hours. Per diem is $1.90 an hour. No international or night flying overrides. Company 401k match is up to 5% and they put in an additional 6% in the 401k whether you contribute or not (if you've been here long enough to be captain)