Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
(Post 1867061)
He stopped blaming Bush? News to me.
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Originally Posted by Whip Whitaker
(Post 1865798)
Regulators could note, for example, the recent behavior of Delta which, having been given the Seattle-Haneda route on a basis that locked out competitors, blatantly abandoned the service.
First of all, the regulators already looked at that and apparently didn't think it was that big of a deal. Because it wasn't. Getting one slot at an oddball time (due to Japanese protectionism, which you claim to be opposed to) and then suspending service during the low season isn't abnormal at all. At. All. And that was before the hub was as built up (and growing) as it is now, and full time service looks like it'll happen, although realistic relief will obviously need to be granted on the definition of full time because as of now 2 cancellations in a row for WX or MX might count as a "service suspension" which is flat out ridiculous. DL is suspending SVO service too the last few months of the year because of a massive dropoff in demand. I suppose EK should start dumping 380's on that too. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1865841)
The US government doesn't think long term and is led by a man who makes Chamberlain look like Genghis Khan. On one hand we have a (currently) profitable airline industry and on the other a dire need to use Al-Dhafra Air Base, UAE ports, and UAE airspace. The US government will not mess with open skies and risk angering the UAE. Even Bush kowtowed to the oil monarchies, Obama is worse (for different reasons). I expect no relief from the US government, I hope I am wrong.
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Okay, so I'm not that great at dissecting theses things and I didn't read the entire 1000 page report but could anyone direct me to where in the report was the so-called "smoking gun" regarding Emirates? What I could find was a few vanilla balance sheet statements for 1996-1999 (?) that had nothing that I could find and then a 1 paragraph statement that said "it's out there" (I'm paraphrasing). In reading the White Paper, I assumed that there would certainly be SOME justification for the charges leveled.
If that's all they've got, disingenuous doesn't even begin to cover it. It would appear that the strategy here is to use the subsidies of Etihad and Qatar (I'm still assuming that there is at least some substance in those claims but given what's not in there on Emirates, that may not be a fair assumption!) to hammer Emirates which IS the biggest commercial threat to the US3 (which may work because it is a country to country dispute). Gloopy, perhaps you could cite the evidence (other than just saying it's there because I said so). Seriously, that's it? |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1867264)
DL is suspending SVO service too the last few months of the year because of a massive dropoff in demand. I suppose EK should start dumping 380's on that too. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Gillegan
(Post 1867747)
Okay, so I'm not that great at dissecting theses things and I didn't read the entire 1000 page report but could anyone direct me to where in the report was the so-called "smoking gun" regarding Emirates? What I could find was a few vanilla balance sheet statements for 1996-1999 (?) that had nothing that I could find and then a 1 paragraph statement that said "it's out there" (I'm paraphrasing). In reading the White Paper, I assumed that there would certainly be SOME justification for the charges leveled.
If that's all they've got, disingenuous doesn't even begin to cover it. It would appear that the strategy here is to use the subsidies of Etihad and Qatar (I'm still assuming that there is at least some substance in those claims but given what's not in there on Emirates, that may not be a fair assumption!) to hammer Emirates which IS the biggest commercial threat to the US3 (which may work because it is a country to country dispute). Gloopy, perhaps you could cite the evidence (other than just saying it's there because I said so). Seriously, that's it? |
Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
(Post 1867793)
I am sure they will when they get Vlad to finance them with even cheaper oil and no landing fees. The sheiks do speak the same language as Putin does ya know. (F America at every opportunity in case you didn't know)
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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1868254)
Russia is tanking.
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
(Post 1868501)
Of course it is, but the point is that M R Rats will lobby for more subsidies to show the world just how wonderful they are. Since both Putin and the sheiks hate America, it's a win/win.
In the UAE, the United States has a quiet, potent ally nicknamed ?Little Sparta? - The Washington Post |
Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
(Post 1868501)
Of course it is, but the point is that M R Rats
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1514697)
You're kidding, right? But then again, Etihad and M R Rats
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